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Farming Youtubers

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭endainoz


    The aul algorithm isnt going well for them so.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    What surprised me is that grassmen seem to get less views on their content that farmer Phil and ifarmwefarm etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭leoch


    i even see it myself from a viewers point of view u get fed up watching some of them after a while or u might stop watching some and then go back watching them after a while so u can see how the viewing numbers may fluctuate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Phil has just under 17M views and 48k subscribers on his channel. Tom Pemberton has just over 100M views and 390k subscribers. IFarm has 7M views and surprisingly 48k subscribers. Grassmen have 77M views and 178k subscribers on their channel.

    Geographical location will play a bit into it too. I find Phil's content the best - more varied than Tom's - although I do like the shed building that he has going on at the minute. Surprised that Phil only has a similar amount of subscribers to IFarm WeFarm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    Phil used to have a good bit more than him, then Ifarm went off spending like there is no tomorrow and that brings in viewers, he's becoming a walking advertisement whereas Phil has watchable content ,even on his instagram story Ifarm is asking people for recommendations for a silo bin, in reality he is saying I'm looking for a silo bin, if any company wants to give me one, get in touch.

    Post edited by timple23 on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,680 ✭✭✭White Clover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭leoch


    jesus ifarms voice goes threw me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭Tileman


    To be fair I think adrianni in ifarm is a good presenter and his production values are very good. Last night episode on the tef 20 was good. I wish he would found on what he is good and unique to him rather than chasing the big machinery and demo stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    The money in youtube is live streaming with superchats. I watch some United Stand, a Man Utd fan channel and it's unreal the money people give. Welkers are the only farm channel I see doing that but very infrequent and very small donations.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    totally get that, but the amount of views on their current stuff in comparison to the other lads is poor (grassmen)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭straight


    Grassmen is for kids and tractor heads. Could never watch them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Suckler


    I was nearly afraid to confess that myself for fear of retribution; could never watch more than a few minutes of it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭einn32




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 923 ✭✭✭The Nutty M


    A few of the big ones had these really stupid clickbaity titles trying to entice a view for a while. It's no wonder the overall viewership went down.

    I'd watch Post10 drain a flood before I'd click on titles like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,834 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    You have it there.

    If I see a hand over a face and exclamation marks in the title. I won't click on and view.

    I haven't been watching much YouTube myself these days. Mostly because busy.

    Bit tiring seeing same stuff too and people hamming it up.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭einn32


    Actually back watching Lord Muck again. I used to watch him but stopped. Love watching him get old tractors that have sat for years going again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,760 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    IFarmWeFarm is dead bloody right to be looking for freebies. Sure wouldn't we all love to get them. All it costs is a few mentions on a camera. He's built up a following and he should use it to it's max while he can. It's a pain in the hole listening to the begging in "I'm not begging - just asking for advice" format. Nevertheless, we'd all bloody do it if we'd the same platform



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,555 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,959 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    The kit these guys have is insane.





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    That is frightening - a dust bowl in the making. It's April and the only green is on the tractors.

    Post edited by Lime Tree Farm on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,161 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Just like a couple weeks ago he mentioned he was on the look out for a mower to do there own silage

    Then farmhand drops out one!

    Complete bonkers for him to be going buying gear to make 200 bales of his own

    Just doesn't add up, and the big 150 hp tractor too! Non stop busy all the time according to him and goes giving himself more work

    Works Sunday as if it was a Monday, says they don't go off on family breaks

    It gives young ppl the wrong impression of farming



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Playing up to the camera in fairness, hes a handy little set-up where 3 hours at each end of the day would do 99% of the work , has the girls to stand in a gap give him a hand with calves, moving stock etc, their is a carbon copy of him beside us, but the two lads are 17 and 19, thats the gold standard of as easy a job youll make of it at dairying, and on a sidenote any lad that can stay as clean in his work clothes as that man isnt under a ounce of pressure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,959 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Ya, that's what I was thinking. No biodiversity whatsoever. I watched another of his videos and he was in their biggest field 5,500 acres.



  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭josephsoap



    In his most recent video he has purchased a diesel cement mixer - looks like he getting ready to pour a base for a meal bin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    Half the reason I watch these videos is to make sure the boss doesn't get any stupid ideas from these videos. Was watching Farmer P's videos of putting up the sheds and thought those land rover cherry pickers are right handy but he runs a tree surgery business too. Most balermen wouldn't have as expensive a set up as that. I'd love to buy a tedder but the thoughts of it sitting for 49 weeks idle doesn't sit well with me. 200 bales at a tenner for mow,bale,wrap, thats 2k a year, thats 5 years of bales to pay for just the mower, 10k for baler and 5 k for wrapper. At this stage I wouldn't be surprised if he buys a second hand fusion and refurbs it (would make good content tbf). For a farming channel he doesn't talk a lot about the livestock. Looking at the video of the mixer I can't help thinking he's robbing Peter to pay Paul, sure it will be handy for a few metres, but to expect to do a complete shed floor with that is madness, what he saves in money he loses in time.

    Ya his only pressure is to come up with ideas for videos. Looking at him fixing the mixer you'd think he would bring the mixer to the workshop instead of dragging the welder and all the tools up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    That's the problem when the farm doesn't generate enough fresh video content naturally but the ego to make videos takes over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    Or perhaps there isn't that much work involved in the farm, but he loves rooting at machinery and doing that bit of tractor work? Can be half for pleasure for lads.



  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭satstheway


    How may is I farm milking?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭C0N0R




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭straight


    I'd say the man is sick sh1t of lads asking him how many is he milking. I know I would be anyway. I think he's a breath of fresh air compare to the dairy hero's that are always singing. Nice family farm and everything done well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,161 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Yeah but working 7 days a week

    I wouldn't get away with it here and I'd be fairly fed up doing that too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,959 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭Tileman


    Yea very good and different video this week. Fair play to him. He must have being reading the Critism on here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    Well at least everyone knows how many cows he milks.I don't agree with his point on smaller farms though and there is likely no turning back now.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Looks like a headline from the farmers journal. " I was a reader of same for some years.I'm ok now though. "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,161 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    17 min of waffle I thought 🙈

    Ah no, definitely a living to be made in 50 cows, was the typical herd size in the day

    Wou.ldnt agree on his point of more cows means more poorer quality ones

    We've increased from 50 cows and sending nearly 1000l more per cow compared to when we had 50 cows


    I've never heard anyone dismiss 50 cow herds tbh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭straight


    He was just making the point that it's not all about cow numbers. Great to hear a bit of common sense amidst all the mania of expansion.

    I'm milking 70-80 and lads wonder how do I manage. A lad says to me one day sure you must be struggling all the time with them small numbers. I don't take any notice but there is a lot of numbers men around and I would back Adrian to outlast alot of them. Nobody would ask you 10 years ago how many cows you were milking. Now it's nearly the first thing out of their mouth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭straight


    Oh ya. Another lad told me one day anyone under 100 cows now is the new 30 cow man. Sure god help us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Best reply for that is sure if it does all go to s**t in 99% of smaller herds the bank wont have the deeds to the place so the pin can be pulled milking if all comes to all relatively pain-free, the contractor that does silage here was saying today how the cousion is going back into milk, farms been mortgaged 400k loan drew down, and a green field site been built for circa 100 cows supplying glanbia, no money in beef farming was the justification for it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    I know of a lad expanding locally who was asked by the usual nosey type how many he's milking now. His reply was "sure I milk all of them"



  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Maxxx17


    I'm a fan of all of the above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    I thought the video was also a load of waffle. He didn't actually say anything about the financial aspect of farming. Take what spending he has done, say 40k with the trade in for the new tractor, 5k for the slurry tank, 10k for hedger and overseeder, probably another 5k between logsplitter, tyres and other bits. That's a debt level of 1200 euro/cow assuming he is milking 50 cows, which has to be paid for through savings or finance. Most big operators might have that kind of debt. None of those purchases with the exception of maybe the overseeder will help the cow produce more milk.

    He was also talking about having his own baling outfit for second cut, so he'll have to buy a wrapper, baler and probably a mower to not have to pay 2k a year to the contractor which any good accountant will know what to do with that bill. Does he think those machines will cost him nothing to operate? Buying that mixer is another example, what he will save in the cost vs readymix, he will lose in having to pay an extra man to help mix and barrow the stuff in.

    All he is doing is glorifying hardship. This is the same fella who didn't have a tractor with a loader up until maybe 2 years ago and was adamant he didn't need one. Imagine walking in the door and telling family you won't be going on holidays for the next 7 years? How many times has he mentioned he didn't go on holidays? He talks about investing all their income into the farm, that isn't sustainable. He talks about looking after the cow, I don't see any investments made towards the cows. He talks about how he is working all these hours, surely the point of making these investments is to reduce his workload, that doesn't make sense at all. He is doing a lot of pandering towards the camera.

    I'm not arguing if there is a living to be made from 30-80 cows, of course there is. But the key to it is making sure your expenditure is less than your income.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    He does seem to have veered away from the animals recently. I was hoping he was going to go into milk figures and explain how his numbers tally. I suspect that even if he did, there would be fault found.

    There is a lot of debt, but there was one point he said something along the lines of better buying something instead of giving the money away. So I suspect that there are some tax reasons behind the spending.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    He can write of the machines against tax, after thats done he still has to deal with the cost of depreciation, cost of operating and maintaining those machines. Probably have to get someone in to help him to do the work. Contractors bill can be offset every year. Only machines he bought that will pay for themselves is hedgecutter and palatine seeder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭vincenzolorenzo


    I enjoy his channel and watch him regularly but I know what you're saying. In fairness when he started out he was focussing a lot on animals and small jobs, very little machinery. Machinery is what gets the views and revenue on YouTube so I reckon that's why he's veered that way a lot in recent times. I'd say he's bought more gear in the last year than the previous 10 and a lot of that is to feed YT. Don't get me wrong though, its great content and more power to him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭youllbemine


    IMO the video title and video content are different things. When I saw the title o was looking forward to a more financial focused side of it. Not him giving us his income, but based off future projections etc how the farm is viable financially. What we got was Adrian saying - "I think it is viable" and an assumption that a herd of 80-100 cows is of poorer quality. He's probably making a nice wee living and that is great. But not a whole pile in that video that surprised me or hadn't already picked up on from his other videos. Twas more of a rant about boys putting him down than anything else. Disappointed he didn't go more into the numbers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭Injuryprone


    I agree with all the above. Video was very vague. What surprised me was when he said he built those sheds himself from a greenfield. I thought he inherited that layout. Talk about making life difficult for yourself. You'd think they could've came up with something simpler.

    The other thing I thought is the 4.30 to 8pm days for years didn't exactly paint a rosy picture for any prospective young lads. Not to mind the no holidays.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,970 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    what ever way he is making all his income he is doing ok for himself.

    if he has all the cows and sheds paid off then he has a bit of financial freedom to play with boys toys so to speak.

    he has a fine house too and like the farm, it’s immaculate, from the outside anyhow. See he’s putting on an extension and said the mixer will be used for putting in the floors. He must be very handy no matter what he turns his hand too.

    another plus for him, he is home for school runs and time with the kids, but also able to help out with his elderly parents. He works hard and long hours, but are all the long hours truly necessary? From looking from the outside I don’t think so, at the stage he is at now anyhow. He seems like a lad who want to be busy. Plus for all he has, even if it was a different line of business, it would have taken long hours and hard work at some stage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭straight


    I for one appreciate the time and effort these YouTubers put into their videos. If I don't like them I just won't bother watching. Ifarm gave a very honest review of what it takes to get to where he is. And yes, dairy farming is hardship if you're not into the lifestyle. I spent 100k on machinery myself this year but that was my first time spending so much on it and that'll be it for a long time again. I don't know of it's an Irish thing or just human nature but people don't like to see others getting on well. I've seen it myself, it must be inheritance or insurance or the wife's job or sure he got it all for nothing. People never see all the hard work and sacrifice.



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