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Katherine Zappone Envoy Gig

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Up At Fleecies


    FG and it's supporters don't like Twitter for two main reasons, the first is they're not particularly very good at utilising it(check out the official FG Twitter account, it's basically a great big PR disaster I'm convinced is operated by some YFG troll in their mammys basement)


    The second, and main reason is, they cannot control the narrative, and that terrifies them, scares them sh1tless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    If it was the money you think they might have given her more than 15k?

    You can shout and roar all you want but the biggest issue on all of this is the so called wages are tiny. Even if she worked an entire year she would be on 66k a year, a TD is on 96k a year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭whippet


    Why would she be stepping on toes .. Zappone has her own track record in relevant matters ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean


    You're right it doesn't, thought that would be a given, but sure go on.

    Twitter is used as a source to quote accounts.

    Twitter is mostly people discussing things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    First off not a FG supporter. Most of the comments on here is that FG supporters are highly paid people and don't know what it is like for the working class. Now you are trying to say highly paid and highly educated people can't use twitter?

    What narrative? what is the narrative they would want if they controlled twitter?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    It's not, twitter is mostly used by people to sell things. People who don't know any better think it is a source of information. Plenty of other online tools for information which is actually true and correct



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭whippet


    peak Karen !!


    do you really think Healy Rea's daughter conspired with the government to leak video of her auld fellas pub ...

    there is zero evidence - zero even inkling of evidence that public money was used ... in actual fact the gig probably cost zappone about half the UN salary to host .. so even thinking that the dinner was to win favour and secure the €13k a year gig is bull.


    we all know that Leo is as weak as they come and him running to the AG to cover his ass is par for the course .. that's an issue for him.


    but the rest is nonsense .. no matter how dramatic you try make it sound.


    BTW .. when you brought the Killgarven boys in to it you argument is as strong as what you'd find in the conspiracy theories thread about 5g and vaccines



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean


    Because Irene Khan already works for the UN doing the exact same bloody job? We are already paying someone to carry out this work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    Have you compared the two jobs to determine if that is true?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean


    Not shouting and roaring 😎

    Trying to use the salary to excuse the cronyism didn't and won't work. Why are you trying so hard to let this slide?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭whippet


    And you can only have one envoy globally .. representing the 180 odd members ?


    you are clutching at straws now ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean


    We have people in the UN with staff working on Religious expression, Freedom of speech and on and on. We, the UN, don't have one from each country. It was a made up job already filled in the UN.

    You are coming off as desperate. What's clutching at straws, pointing out she created it and that such a position already exists? 🤠



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean


    Ran out of road?

    Is the next step "I know you are'? 😎



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Up At Fleecies


    First off, I couldn't care less who you support or give your vote to, unsure why you even feel the need to tell me that, and second, the rest of your post appears to me to be a script you conjured up, impromptu, from the depths of your highly imaginative and wildly deluded imagination.

    Most of the comments on here is that FG supporters are highly paid people and don't know what it is like for the working class.

    where are these comments? by "most" do you mean mostly non existent? Can you dig out a few, if most of the comments are along the lines of the absolute nonsense you just typed out, it won't take you long to finding them, your posts are becoming increasingly delusional, and appear to be the be ramblings of a deranged fantasist. 🤪



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭whippet


    it isn’t one from each country we are talking about - just one more. For a paltry €13k per annum. But keep getting angry and outraged … it will just make you happier if you are in to that



  • Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No one appreciates the arts any more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean


    You're making excuses.

    Trying to turn it onto me personally, won't help. You already hit me with 'pathetic'. Yourself and Dudley might be okay or willing to excuse such behaviour, I'm free to disagree. The way you and others always make it personal loses you much credibility. It was wrong IMO. It's being investigated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    I know Zappone hasn't been doing interviews and Leo be dodging, but has Ivana been getting away too?

    Has anyone asked Leo or Ivana who else was there. I can guess Baciks answer would be something like "erm.. I don't know, I was only in and out 15 minutes" but doubt here constituents would let her pull that.

    Leo. ever the coward, would probably answer some bullcrap about not being able to comment or say who else was there. Doesn't want to name 45 FGers.. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭aidoh


    I do have a flair for the dramatic, I'll give you that.

    Neither of us know if public money was used. Presumably it wasn't as Zappone is not a sitting TD so would have no expenses. Still, who knows without any journalistic investigation into the debacle? The silence from media is suspicious. The silence from fellow TDs is even more suspicious. I never asserted that public money was used btw - just highlighted it as a question I would like to ask, were I a journo.


    It sounds as though you aren't in the least bit interested to find out whether the most powerful politicians in Ireland, who have worked hand-in-glove with the media to condition their constituents into believing that they are little more than potential biosecurity threats over the last 18+ months, have in fact breached the very laws/guidelines that they themselves invented and expect you to gleefully follow.

    It's interesting to me that you've instead resorted to a few lazy ad hominems and strawmen and have not been able to present any evidence that my hypotheses, dramatically-put as they admittedly are, are flawed in premise or are likely to be untrue for the reasons of x, y, z...

    MerrionGate is another case of "rules for thee but not for me" and it is sickening to see it go unchallenged.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭whippet


    I’ll leave it at that so - don’t want to be the cause for raising your blood pressure any further.

    Anyway - I’ll go back to my echo chamber where the vast majority couldn’t give a flyin F what happened in the Merrion



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    Nobody does care…no matter how much they shout and roar here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    So you made a load of stuff up and complaining because people can’t prove you are wrong?

    Thats the internet for you. Why don’t you prove you are right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean


    Again with the personal.

    That's the danger. You get comfortable in your own echo chamber and think it speaks for the rest of us.

    You take your ball home now 😃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭whippet


    There is no evidence of any public money being used - as you point out Zappone isn’t a TD anymore and can’t use public money - yet it was her that hosted it. So everything points to there being absolutely no dodgy financing of the event. So no story here

    So with one breath you accuse the media being hand in glove with the government and yet this was all broken by the very same media that ran and ran and ran and ran with it for a week. It was all over the airwaves, in every paper and every gobshite got to air their voice on the matter on the radio.

    They are now somewhat silent on it now - as they know there isn’t a story in reality and apart from embarrassing Leo for another gaf .. its all irrelevant.

    The story is just running now by those being dupped by the like of Paddy Cosgrave and his personal vendetta against FG and the government as they didn’t subsidise his personal venture



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭whippet




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭aidoh


    Ah I don't know about that, Whippet.

    With the exception of a single scathing article in the Indo, I don't recall a single difficult question being put to any of the ministers. In fact, the ministers have disappeared altogether which is a bit strange. If you have the time or inclination inclination point me to such interviews etc., it would be much obliged.


    Only time will tell whether this is a non story or a big ol' scandal and for the time being I respectfully disagree with you that this doesn't absolutely reek of cronyism.

    If the story isn't forgotten entirely by September, that is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Up At Fleecies


    I'm not discussing the poster, I'm discussing your posts, and the contents of same. Your posts are largely pie in the sky, made up crap, and when called out, away you go, either with a "I'll leave you to it" snide comment, or on a different route of deflection.

    So no one posted anything about FG people being high paid, nevermind "most of the comments" are along the lines, it's spoof after spoof with your posts, and noone seems to be calling a halt to it. I really can't get my head around how its let slide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭whippet


    That is a rewrite of history !!! One article in the indo …. Just google ‘Catherine Zappone Merrion Hotel’ and you’ll see buckets of articles in the main stream media. But since you have already decided that Danny Healy Rea’s daughter is in cahoots with Leo .. no amount of evidence will satisfy your need for some great conspiracy



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit



    It was all over the airwaves, in every paper and every gobshite got to air their voice on the matter on the radio.

    I can think of three gobshites that haven't yet, and they would be the main/biggest three gobshites that should.


    EDIT - I would include the other 47 gobshites, but they are probably on this, defending it.



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