US and Nato withdrawal from Afghanistan...- threadbanned users in OP

Whatever happened to those lads ?

For the next few years I expect a lot of movies about Afghanistan with the yankees pretending they won the war but just left the country.

Rodric o gormon has announced were are granting 150 Afghans full asylum,none of which will enter direct provision here .and none of the failed asylum seekers will be deported ,

For once, you can neither blame the republicans nor democrats in this instance. They went into an impossible situation and came out of it after they said they would. If they remained in Afghanistan, they would have been severely criticised.

I don't think America lost here, despite all the references to Viet Nam already.

I believe that the US will wage a long war using drones if they need to, assuming the Taliban propagate any threats to the US or its allies. Hopefully this will not be the case.

You have got to really feel for the citizens of Afghanistan. There seems to be no end to conflict in their country. It is most unlikely the Taliban will provide the stability they need.

And if they had really hammered the Taliban earlier on ...they must have been vulnerable when travelling on the roads. I'm pretty sure that the Americans had good information from satelite / drone surveillance. It would not have changed the outcome, but would have at least slowed down the Taliban advance.

That's what I don't get it takes large convoys to transport thousands of fighters ,easy targets for drones ,c130s and other aircraft ,

They already said they were using b52s and gunships doesn't seemed to have happened or had zero effect which would be hard to believe

No its not.look at it from their viewpoint. Fight for a corrupt government against a foe that you cannot beat without the help of the US, who have pulled out of the fight? And not only will you be killed,,,but your Family too ( and anyone associated with you) So, no. You lose your weapons and uniform, and survive ( maybe to fight another day?? ) And cheer the victors... all to survive.

And as a foretaste of things to come, they are already collecting weapons from the Citizens...as according to the Taliban, they wont need them any more as they ( Taliban) will protect them, so no need for weapons. Following a pattern, same as before.

I'm not sure what winning means in Afghanistan.

Its just a political gesture, no more... we can say we ‘did’..

we should be taking 0... I’m sure everyone on fûcking hospital waiting lists here and denied fûnding for rehabilitative inpatient treatments following assaults, car accidents, stokes and brain injuries and the likes will be overjoyed that the government can find a few million to help the health and wellbeing of people from a land 8000 kilometers away as their priority.

that funding already has been allocated - its not finding money - it comes from existing programs. but dont let that stop you from your rant on not helping anyone outside of ireland.

This is very much true