Vaccine Megathread No 2 - Read OP before posting

Astrology is a more logical belief than Christianity or Islam. I mean there's a chance that, if the moon can move oceans on earth that it can also have some effect on the bodies of humans, even if we don't fully know anything about those effects. Obviously it's pure nonsense but it's coming from a much more logical thought process than the zombie carpenter stuff.

And 80% Ireland subscribe to the later belief system

So what's the story with these Romanian mRNA doses? What manufacturer and how how long have they been in storage. Will they be the exact same vaccines as already used here, manufactured in same facilities?

Will there be resistance to taking them? And where are HSE targeting them? I recall there were issues with certain batches of AZ which were from other manufacturing facilities.

Pfizer supply to the EU all comes from the approved production facilties in the EU so not sure why your asking will they be the exact same vaccine. How could they be any different?

Also as per the deal done they aren't coming from Romania. They're coming directly from the manufacturer out of Romanias allocation.

Why would there be resistance? It's the same vaccine that's been in use here all the way along.

The EU never had issues with batches of AZ from other locations, that was the UK. EU hadn't approved the plant in question.

Australia are getting a million doses of Pfizer from Poland but the deal seems to be going through very quickly compared to ours, vaccines are expected in Oz within 1 day

The point is that, in any other medical situation, if offered the latest medical technology which has had unprecedented levels of resources poured into it in response to the biggest medical issue on the planet, which has gone through the required testing and has been fully approved, and has been used in people for over a year and received by a billion people since, you wouldn't be say "I'll do my own assessment of risks and benefits". I don't care who you are, you don't know more than the collective minds of the scientists who developed these vaccines or the regulators who approved them.

In any other circumstances a person would be ridiculed beyond belief for taking the "I'll do my own assessment of risks and benefits" in relation to medical issues. However, when it comes to vaccines, some people are willing to ignore the rules they would apply in literary every other medical situation (i.e. you listen to the doctors, you trust the regulators and you follow the manufacturers instructions). People only seem willing to deviate from that in the case of vaccines, it defies all logic.

8 month gap for boosters in the US. Not 6 months. If the gap is 8 months, it will be later this year before most Irish people get a third dose.

I'm just pointing out how illogical your position is. Don't take a vaccine if you don't want but don't pretend that decision isn't based on any logic. Its the "I'll do my own assessment of risks and benefits" line which is the biggest load of nonsense. Are you seriously going to dig through the mountains of data on these vaccines development, trials and now their use in hundreds of millions of people and expect to find something different to what all the expert scientists, regulators and various on-lookers have not found so far?

If you don't trust the system, will you be opting out of modern medical science completely until you have done your "own assessment of risks and benefits" of anything which gets recommended for your personal health? Stick to herbs and prayers instead? Didn't think so. I'm sure you'd have no issues if this stuff didn't come in a bottle that says "vaccine" on the label.

When you started wearing a mask is irrelevant and patting yourself on the back for being "so prepared for this pandemic at its inception" is just bizarre. Did your wonderful foresight on masks not extend to the inevitable endgame here that this would only be ended by vaccines and make peace with that? If you won't take a vaccine, then surely you have to accept you will eventually catch the virus, in which case why would you have been "wearing a mask before the first case was detected in Ireland"? Do you expect to avoid this highly infectious airborne virus for ever?

At least the anti-mask, natural hed immunity anti-vaxxers have got a constant logic running through their approach, albeit extremely selfish. There is a serious deficit of logic in your approach.

The Taliban have outlawed covid vaccination in Afghanistan so the 'uptake' there will be low.

Government to defy WHO advice and begin rollout of booster shots

The Government is set to defy World Health Organisation (WHO) advice and press on with rolling out booster shots for vulnerable people and frontline workers from as soon as September.

This comes as ministers are worried about the impact of rising cases on hospital capacity with latest figures showing Ireland has the second highest vaccine uptake in the EU.

A well-placed source in the vaccine rollout programme has said third shots of vaccines could be rolled out from as soon as September, in line with countries such as France and Germany.

Targeted boosters should help going into the winter

My 2 boys aged 12 and 15 have got an appointment for tomorrow in Tullamore. Incredibly how fast the rollout is now

Don't think I saw Janssen in that release (AZ were referenced) but I assume I'll be able to apply as a Janssen recipient?

Should be fine. I went 1 hour 40 minutes before my appointment a few weeks back and no issue.

Oh look, it's Furze on the hobby horse again!

It's not the HSE who approves, it's NIAC. Plans for distribution are the concern of the HSE, not NIAC.

http://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0817/1241252-coronavirus-ireland/