New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

ohnonotgmail · 16-08-2021 07:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117763487#Comment_117763487

Were the GBNews supporters telling us recently that viewership figures are on the rise?

Timberrrrrrrr · 16-08-2021 07:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117763562#Comment_117763562

So now he has 2.5 million (and falling) viewers but "tens of millions" who just can't be arsed watching 🤣🤣🤣

Wow, you get more desperate by the day!

16-08-2021 07:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117763575#Comment_117763575

Tens of millions support gay marriage, but not all of these people watch Sky News.

Not everyone with certain political views watch a TV channel 24/7 a day.

Fionn1952 · 16-08-2021 07:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117763562#Comment_117763562

This is a genuine question rather than a dig at GB News;

Are those 2.5 million viewers actually unique viewers, or a combination of all the people who watch each individual show? For example, if Billy down the road watches Farage for thirty minutes, turns the TV off to have a cup of British made tea substitute and then turns the TV back on to watch Dan Wooten for five minutes, is that one viewer or two as per the numbers reported?

Timberrrrrrrr · 16-08-2021 07:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117763598#Comment_117763598

Or at all by the looks of it 🤣🤣🤣

Quin_Dub · 16-08-2021 07:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117763457#Comment_117763457

Again - It's NOT 2.4M viewers!!!

Given your obsession with YouTube let me try to explain it in Web traffic terms.

Websites have VISITS which are performed by VISITORS .

A single Visitor can account for many many Visits.

So to continue the analogy , GB News has had a total of 2.4M visits to the channel in the last 4 weeks, each lasting on average 22 seconds.

Given that no show has ever gotten above about ~150k viewers for a single episode/show , it's likely that the entirety of the GB News discreet viewership doesn't amount to much more than a few hundred thousand people at the absolute best.

Given the UK has a population of ~55M I'd reckon that a good deal less than 0.5% of the UK has actually EVER tuned into the channel.

Call it 300k, maybe.

Also , it's a 4% drop each and every week since they launched - They have not shown growth in any single week since they started , not once.

16-08-2021 07:31PM

John Bolton now on Farage discussing the disaster of the Afghanistan withdrawal.

Timberrrrrrrr · 16-08-2021 07:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117763609#Comment_117763609

I've tried explaining this but the fingers just go in the ears. Try the crayon and small word approach next time that might work🤷‍♂️

Timberrrrrrrr · 16-08-2021 07:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117763611#Comment_117763611

John Bolton? The John Bolton who said

"withdrawal is in Americans' best interest"

That John Bolton?

16-08-2021 07:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117763609#Comment_117763609

I'm well aware that, like the Internet, you can have multiple sessions per user, so to speak.

I'm simply using the BARB figures / terminology and comparing it with other stations.

Quin_Dub · 16-08-2021 07:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117763303#Comment_117763303

You didn't answer the question the last time you posted this guff about "the rise of the right" but might as well ask again for giggles.

Can you show me a single country anywhere on earth where a right-wing government enjoys majority support??

Right wing parties are only capable of securing electoral victories by winning a plurality of the vote in heavily gerrymandered locations that leverage variants of FPTP.

As has been pointed out to you many many times at this point , the Tories lost the popular vote by an almost 2:1 ratio in the last Election yet because of how utterly undemocratic the electoral process is in the UK that secured them an 80 seats majority.

To simplify that for you still further - For each and every Tory voters in the UK there are almost 2 voters that cannot stand them and everything that they stand for.

Rise of the right indeed....

16-08-2021 07:45PM

Can you show me a single country anywhere on earth where a right-wing government enjoys majority support??

It's not about "majority support". Does that mean 51pc?

The UK handed Boris Johnson 43pc of the vote. In fact, the Conservatives have been in power in the UK since 1979 - exempting Tony Blair, who was effectively a centrist politician anyway.

When the most far-left politician did make it to the top, he was crushed by the Conservative jaws of Boris Johnson.

Quin_Dub · 16-08-2021 07:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117763657#Comment_117763657

Sure.. It's still not 2.5M viewers though.

BBC News has ~12M views during the same period , based on peak viewing figures etc. that's probably made up of about 2M discreet individuals that switched on the channel , Sky News is probably somewhere in the 800k to 1M ball-park.

BBC and SKY have fairly stable numbers - throughout the period , in other words GB News isn't taking viewers off them (not really surprising) , equally though after the initial burst of "What's this all about then?" viewers GB News has been on an almost linear decline each week.

In fact in reality what is happening is those somewhat higher first few weeks are now falling out of the rolling 4 week measurement window so it's actually probably settled at a level now somewhere around 500k "views" each week and the Farage show accounts for probably 60% plus of that.

No one is watching , no matter how much you wish they were.

Penn · 16-08-2021 07:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117763657#Comment_117763657

Then why did you say "2.5million core supporters" a few posts back?

pjohnson · 16-08-2021 07:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117763632#Comment_117763632

Hes not a mathematician. Remember his taxes performance :D

Quin_Dub · 16-08-2021 07:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117763682#Comment_117763682

Your ability to be presented with a data point and to take the absolute polar opposite meaning from it is truly unsurpassed.

Your claim is the the "right is on the rise" - The facts dispute this entirely. The "right aren't increasing their % of the vote in any significant way in any major country

Not withstanding the inability of the other parties in the UK to organise the proverbial pi$$-up in a brewery the Tories can still only manage to convince 43% of the populace to vote for them.

The MAJORITY of people in the UK do not want a tory government , that is an absolute fact.

And - "Crushed by the Conservative Jaws of Boris Johnson"???

Are you twelve??

Fionn1952 · 16-08-2021 08:00PM

I suppose this is all a case of never mind the blatant propagandist populism the likes of Johnson or Trump represent and let's just claim them as, 'classic conservatism' anyway?

joe40 · 16-08-2021 09:15PM

How any Irish person can tolerate Nigel Farage is beyond me.

His attitude to NI during the Brexit debate was appalling and his attitude towards the NI protocol, an agreement Boris Johnson signed up to, is dangerous and inflammatory.

But hey he doesn't like migrants so let's all cheer him on..

16-08-2021 09:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117764070#Comment_117764070

Nigel Farage is appalled at how Johnson and the EU have behaved over Northern Ireland. He doesn't support what has transpired.

As for the xenophobic and racist labels, well, I don't know what to say at this stage.

joe40 · 16-08-2021 09:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117764109#Comment_117764109

What was Nigel Farage plans for Northern Ireland post Brexit then?

16-08-2021 09:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117764128#Comment_117764128

As far as my knowledge goes on this question, I believe that Farage effectively wanted a no deal Brexit, but one that didn't require the imposition of a hard border. No backstop. No customs differentiation down the Irish Sea. He sees what Johnson has done as a massive and unnecessary concession to the European Union; that N. Ireland was sacrificed for the sake of the rest of the UK.

In terms of why an Irish person would support Nigel Farage. I'll be honest: I was a raging Leftie for quite a long time, you could say that it was my default position. Anti-Israel, pro-socialism etc.; the usual. Only when I listened to Nigel Farage did my views - albeit very slowly - begin to change. Even though he was talking about the United Kingdom and the EU, his politics I found very attractive indeed. Then followed other Conservatives, especially Daniel Hannan.

ohnonotgmail · 16-08-2021 09:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117764128#Comment_117764128

What was Nigel Farages plans for anything post Brexit?

16-08-2021 09:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117764164#Comment_117764164

He wasn't a government minister, so he couldn't have a detailed plan. If he had have been, I've no doubt he would have had one.

But David Cameron had no contingency in place, at all, in the case of a Brexit vote. That's the real catastrophe.

joe40 · 16-08-2021 09:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117764153#Comment_117764153

Let's think about that for a minute. A no deal Brexit without any hard border in Ireland.

So the UK and the EU would be totally separate trading entities with no trade deal, no immigration agreements but with an open porous land border covering a few hundred miles with literally thousands of crossing points, between the EU and UK.

This is a man whose opinion you value?

16-08-2021 09:43PM

Daniel Hannan who hates Europe so much he stole half a million quid from the EU and was ordered to pay it back?

Daniel Hannan who was booted out of a MEP meeting for comparing the German leader to Hitler?

Daniel Hannan who once tweeted photos of the brilliant English countryside which turned out to be stock photos of Wales and Canada that he'd downloaded off the Web?

A liar, a cheat and someone who likes making disparaging comparisons to infamous villains. No wonder you like him

16-08-2021 09:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117764217#Comment_117764217

But the day after Brexit is the same as the day before Brexit. There is no immediate shift in policy.

That policy is then decided by negotiation. Note that both the EU and the UK stated that no hard border would be implemented. So, what magical entity is going to create this border? It was fantasy to begin with; something that was never going to happen. Project Fear on steroids.

As for free movement of people between the UK and Ireland, this has existed between Ireland and the UK since the 1920s.

And let's not forget that differences already exist between the North and the Republic; in terms of currency, tax etc.

The North was harnessed by the EU for political reasons. The EU was perfectly happy to throw the North of Ireland under the bus for purely negotiation reasons - and, as we've discovered so far, that has proven to be very much the case.

Nigel was right, in other words.

hawley · 16-08-2021 09:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117763658#Comment_117763658

So if you don't vote for a certain party, you despise everything that they stand for?

16-08-2021 09:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117764243#Comment_117764243

Correction....the North was annexed from us by the UK for political reasons.

And the Tories were more than happy to throw them under the bus at the earliest opportunity once they no longer relied on them to form the Government. Brexit was soundly rejected in NI by about 12 percentage points from memory. They didn't want this to happen, then got shafted by Boris and his buddies at the next convenient space in time. You'd do well to remember that, when you're not busy picking ropey role models like Hannan, Widdicombe and Jim fcuking Davidson.

16-08-2021 10:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117764323#Comment_117764323

Hannan, yes.

I don't rely on Anne Widdecombe or Jim Davidson to nourish any of my political insights.

joe40 · 16-08-2021 10:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117764243#Comment_117764243

So explain to me how The EU and UK could function as two separate entities, with an open porous land border between them.

That does not happen anywhere in the world.

New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

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