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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    Funny I mentioned that to my dad on the way down.

    Risky above belief if so.

    But if you look at the ai finals and semis against Dublin they burnt our legs in second half. We usually go hard in first half and nothing left.


    If he did it was a master stroke



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,722 ✭✭✭Cartman78


    Given how recent encounters have gone with Dublin, I think this was our tactical plan

    1st quarter: DO NOT CONCEDE A GOAL

    2nd quarter: Hang in, keep in touch

    3rd quarter: DO NOT CONCEDE A GOAL

    4th quarter: Horanball.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    To the extent that its implementation fell well short of what could have been reasonably expected in the first half. If the forwards had displayed any sort of intermediate club level shooting/freetaking competence in the first half, we could easily have gone in only a point or two down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,345 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    It absolutely was the plan but I felt we were too far off the pace at HT. Both on the scoreboard and in individual performances.

    What a call from Horan to take off Aidan. He could have easily moved him out to midfield (I think that was the original plan for the 2nd half) but he did the right thing and took him off. You could see the lads up their game as he went off.

    I questioned Ryan OD and Tommy C at HT and I think that was deserved but they absolutely delivered on the big stage after that. If that was a coming of age moment for the both of them, then we're in fine fettle.

    Hard not to go through the whole team but their was definitely something caught in my eye when Robbie stuck over the 45. O'Hora was a man possessed and sums up everything about Mayo.

    Players like Kevin Mc and Diarmuid get plenty of spotlight but I don't think there can ever be enough praise or appreciation for them.

    Onto Kerry now and I hope we go full throttle. Anything else would be a big mistake. They aren't were they need to be in terms of S&C and their lack of games won't help that. Sure, they've some extremely dangerous forwards but we continue to produce the best defenders around... And they absolutely have a big problem at the back. No fear, let's get it done once and for all, hornball all the way now!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,256 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Hornball :D

    agree with all that. I’m very optimistic. Would be great to have Mullen back. They don’t like being run at .

    let’s go baby let’s go



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    Great performance, congrats. Will to win, determination, application and heart. All of which we were missing. Go and win it now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    Robert Hennelly was MOTM for me yesterday. What character that man has shown. How hard must the '16 replay have been for him? And other days when he took (mostly undeserved) criticism and sometimes even ridicule? I don't really know the lad personally and I'm not from his club but if anyone in sport deserved a fair deal it's him.Horrible luck for McLaughlin, a jaw break is a terrible injury and impacts your life in a way other injuries don't. The shoulder charge was reckless but probably not malicious on this occasion despite it being perpetrated by a malicious player but it deserved a card of some colour. Lane should be stood down from inter county, his ineptitude is dangerous and could have resulted in a bad situation being a lot worse.Going to be hard beat Kerry without 3 top players and I think there maybe a few other injuries resulting from the thuggery Dublin players resorted to once they realised the referee wasn't going to rescue them this time. Great to be there anyway, days like these won't last forever.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Ah Swanie O Hora's interview was gold quality.Absolutely no BS,always refreshing honesty.

    Reminded of his interview with Mike Finnnerty post the Ballina Stephenites championship win and pre a repeat clash with Knockmore who'd beaten them a matter of weeks ago in the league.

    His mental strength and fortitude and physical prowess shone through on the Special Forces Ultimate Week.

    An ideal candidate for such a role but he mentioned he works in the area of disabilities ( an occupation he has a great gra for ).

    It would be great if the few weeks lead in to the final offered Harry the opportunity to make a case for some significant game time most especially given Eoghan's loss.

    Will James Horan draft Eoin O Donoghue into the squad?

    He was'nt go well this year but with all the injuries....

    What's the craic with this hornball?😁



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    James Horan post match interview on OTB.


    Dessie Farrell generous in defeat.


    https://cdn.radiocms.net/radio-cms/uploads/2021/08/15121009/1508_GAAreaction.mp3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,722 ✭✭✭Cartman78


    Mayo News match review podcast is available now :-)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    What's the craic with this hornball?😁

    Never heard groupies were a big thing in GAA, but I grew up in more innocent times...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,354 ✭✭✭naughto


    11th of sept for allireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,345 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    That's a Horndog, we all know what Hornball is. It's Horanball on Viagra.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,529 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    be interesting to see if more than 40k will be allowed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,256 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Never even thought of that

    Hopefully have Mullen back . A month is a long break though



  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Vish81


    Superb performance.

    The month off should help focus the minds.

    Kerry for me are way overrated and Mayo should hold no fear of them

    Special shoutout to Stephen Rochford who yerra"ed the nation on OTB sports putting this Dublin outfit on the same pedestal as the 2017 team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,256 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Interesting that Lane correctly booked Dean Rock after just 3 minutes for a frontal shoulder charge

    Consistent as ever



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Delighted it's a Saturday throw in.

    Far preferable to the traditional Sunday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭PressRun


    A month is a long time to go without a game though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    Oisin McConvile fair play got it right tonight on the Sunday game. Somebody had the balls to call it for what it was . RE: the wreckless tackle on Eoghan McLaughlin.

    The cowardly use of the elbow to the head . The outcome : A double fracture of the jaw was the result requiring immediate surgery .

    time for change in this sport to catch up with the reality of most other modern contact sports. Rugby can do it and the GAA needs to act now .



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  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭lillielad


    Ah lads, grandfathers a mayo man, so that was immense. They were immense yesterday after the first half, they just gave it everything as they always do. D O Connor keeping the ball in after Robbie Hennely's kick was the turning point and then McLoughlin hitting it over. There is a lot written about Mayo's inability to bring through top-level forwards, which is bullshit obviously when they have had Moran, Cillian, Jason Doherty, etc but Tommy Conroy and O Donoghoe are immense so direct.


    Onto the ref, he was a disgrace how he let the game go on after the hit on McClaughlin was crazy, firstly not stopping the game was utter small and how Small didn't get red was also crazy. McCarthy, Con and Costello all should have been gone too.


    Amazing year for you guys with the injuries etc no matter happens you guys will be back you always are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Anybody hear that Oisin's quad injury may only the strain as opposed to a tear?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Heard during the week that it wasn't as bad as was being suggested by some, but who knows.



  • Registered Users Posts: 816 ✭✭✭RedDevil55


    Yes I think there is optimism he will be back for the final.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit



    That would be immense.


    James Horan seemed to be unsure re the extent of the injury when interviewed on OTB.


    Hats off to Dr. Sean Moffatt and the rest of the medical team who've been around for longer than I can remember.


    Player welfare is sacrosanct and they weren't waiting for any break in the play to assess the sadly supine Eoghan McLaughlin.When the collision occured I could see from nigh on 90 yards away in the upper Davin stand that play should have been stopped.


    I'll never forget them pulling both Aidan and Cillian temporarily from the field of play post their toe curling head collision in the 2014 semi final replay.



  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Shark7


    Well done, great win



  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Shark7


    Well done, great win



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Lads it's Mullin not Mullen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Manzoor14


    And to add to this, their work in making sure James Carr left the field for a head injury assessment towards the end (after Paddy Small's cowardly punch to the head). The medics did a great job, I can't imagine how hard it would be to insist that the determined player leaves the pitch in that white hot match atmosphere.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭muddle84




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Watching back the game, Tommy Conroy had the game of his life thus far. His second half and extra time performance was immense. Showed up for big points just when we needed him and was very direct. His strength and pace were spectacular - just shaking off defenders at times - and he kicked a couple of phenomenal scores at clutch moments. Ryan O'Donoghue also took the baton from Cillian well with the frees and was determined to make things happen in the second half and extra time - his turn over on James McCarthy in extra time was a great bit of stuff.

    Robbie Hennelly of course had a terrific game and showed nerves of steel.

    Paddy Durcan made some key interceptions and runs from the back, in particular his block at the death when Dublin were trying to manufacture a goal was gutsy stuff, as was Diarmuid's outstretched leg to keep the stray free in play for Kevin McLoughlin's point - that signalled the turning of the tide.

    Padraig O'Hora is some animal at the back.

    Lee Keegan was probably my man of the match, on reflection and watching it back. Bossed O'Callaghan in the second half, intercepted a Comerford kickout for a point and scored a point of his own when the comeback was on.

    I definitely think Horan has a decision to make on O'Shea. He looked nervous and lacking in confidence while on the pitch. Very indecisive and was slowing the play down. The game changed when he went off and we brought the pacey youngsters on. I think Horan will start him the next day and to be fair, the opposition for the final will be a different proposition than Dublin. But it'll be interesting to see if he plays 70 minutes. Could see him getting subbed again tbh, in favour of finishing out the game with youth.

    Thought we were very cagey in the first half, maybe a bit scared of conceding an early goal, but when we cut loose and just ran at them in the second half, I felt the pace, power and fitness we showed was frightening at times - there were moments when the Dubs could hardly get a glove on some of these youngsters. Young Hession was superb in this regard. Was delighted also for Jordan Flynn, who has probably had his card marked somewhat since that incident in his underage days and has subsequently probably struggled to make an impact at senior level thus far - he stood up to the plate and took his score well.

    Horan also played a blinder on the sideline - made huge, courageous calls at big moments that probably shifted the game in our favour. The players buy into him big time as a manager, despite whatever criticism he has received over the years for his tactics.

    It would be terrific to have Oisin back for the final, maybe the extra bit of time is a blessing in this regard, though I did hear Horan saying he'd prefer a 2 week gap between games.

    We definitely have improvements to make - some of the shooting was shocking in the first half and we lacked direct running. But when we came alive in that second half, like I said, the pace and power and fitness levels were immense. And the way we applied pressure to the end and managed the game was not something I'm accustomed to seeing from Mayo teams - at the end of normal time, we had Dublin hemmed so much into their own half that they were dithering with the ball in front of their own goal, a bizarre sight I have to say. In the second half of extra time, we played them at their own game. There was never any sense of panic.

    A lot of these youngsters play with no fear. They have no scars from previous losses. If we cut loose and go at it, I genuinely think we have a great chance in the final, regardless of opposition.

    Finally - I've said my piece on the standard of refereeing during the game and the McLoughlin injury, but I wish him all the best for a speedy recovery. He is a huge loss for us of course, but most importantly, I hope he recovers swiftly and can get back to normal in his personal life as soon as possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    What are your thoughts on AOS at FF? To my untrained eye(armchair tv fan who hasn't played in quarter of a century) its bound to fail. When he wins a mark he's unable to kick even a gimme score, no matter how much he's fouled it's a free out, it invites outfield players to often kick aimless balls at him that mostly go dead. Worst of all at FF AOS doesn't get many turnovers which I feel is the best part of his game. AOS is a power house who's workrate and commitment cannot be questioned but he lacks some basic skills that make it ridiculous to think he can perform multiple roles in the same game. For me he should be deployed at full throttle for 30 to 40 mins in the middle third. Whether that's as starter or sub I'm not sure. Certainly AOS coming on as sub in 2nd half catching high ball and forcing tired players to turn over ball would be some injection of adrenaline. As I say though it's easy to make tough managerial decisions from the armchair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    Horan is some man. We are very lucky to have him as our manager and what he has done for Mayo football. He took the softness out of us when he came in and set standards, made us strong. Gone are the days of 04/06.

    Some effort in the second half. If we can get tuned in from the start we have a serious chance. Conroy, ROD really came good and this is the first time they have done this at the big stage. The quality is there and they just need to do it for longer.

    Fair play to Oisin McConville for calling out the ref and the tackle on McLoughlin. He must have been in some pain and a nasty tackle. He can be so proud of what he has achieved to date.

    But I come back to probably one of our best players ever in a Mayo jersey... Keegan. He is just an animal of a player. The bigger the day the bigger the performance and now he has guys who are playing like him O'Hara, Durcan etc. The attitude is the most impressive part of these guys..

    Lets hope Mullen is back. We need him now with Eoghan Mcloughlin gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭PressRun


    I have never believed in O'Shea as a full forward. It doesn't work in big games as he isn't really a natural scorer and he's too easy to mark for top class defenders, he's too predictable. He doesn't have a forward's brain imo. Aidan's strength is his ball handling and strength in the tackle. So he is more useful out the field where he can break tackles, field, turn over ball and be something of an engine, putting the more natural scorers into better positions. I think this is the role he is most comfortable and most confident in. You could tell the last day that his confidence was slipping away with each missed shot, fumbled pass, etc. I think he prefers to be in a position where he can be more involved in the build up play rather than waiting inside for someone to let it into him.

    That said, he isn't pacey and Horan is clearly going for pace with this new squad, especially for finishing out games. So I don't know if he will see 70 minutes the next day. Like I say though, Tyrone and Kerry are both different propositions to Dublin, they probably don't have the same amount of pace that Dublin have in their squad, so maybe it will suit him. Hard to know what Horan will do. My instinct says he'll start him and then sub him for a pacey youngster to run at a tired defence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,537 ✭✭✭HBC08


    To say he can't kick simple scores is not accurate, he had two horrible misses on Sat but if he shoots it usually goes over, he nearly always takes low risk shots or fists it over.

    He'll start the final at ff and could do huge damage in there.

    Too many people are writing him off because he had one bad game.Aido will not let us down.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 816 ✭✭✭RedDevil55


    Apart from a half here and there, Aidan has always struggled against Dublin. It's probably because they are so pacy and athletic around the middle third he can't get close enough consistently to win turnovers. Also Cluxton never lumped 50:50 kickouts to midfield which Aidan would thrive on. He has never been a natural inside forward. It worked at times against lesser teams than Dublin because Aidan is bigger and stronger than almost every defender out there. The likes of Fitzsimons, Byrne, Cooper, Small, McCarthy and Philly in previous years have a decade of intercounty experience and S&C behind them. They were just able to spoil him legally or otherwise.

    He has a much better record against Kerry and Tyrone historically so hopefully can just write off the Dublin game from a personal experience. I wonder could we afford to not start him and then bring him on around midfield in the 2nd half?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭batman75


    Congratulations to Mayo from a Kilkenny cat. Great to see Dublin knocked off their perch. It would be great to see Mayo claim the big one. So often the bridesmaid. Good luck to Mayo in the AIF.



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    O'Shea against David Moran for example though is a good match-up. Has the physical presence for him, and at this stage of Moran's career would be one of the few players in inter county that O'Shea more pace than



  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Vish81


    This is a Kerrys weakness, he 33, not the type of player requires a matchup.

    Hes there to be exploited by pace , not like for like ..which O Shea is, which would play into Kerry hands.

    M



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    On the flip side, as a ball winner and distributor Moran is second to no one bar Fenton. Put O'Shea on him to disrupt the ball winning abilities. You are right though. You want mismatches for pace on Moran. He can play puck however if he starts winning clean ball



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭franklyon


    On a side note not sure if anybody else said it but nice to see Brendan Harrison after his long layoff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    Great to see. With Eoghan, Cillian, Jason and possibly Oisin still unavailable we’ll need anyone we can to be as fit and healthy as they can be for the final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    Just on AOS, he has never played well against Dublin. He seems to be getting alot of bad press but I would give him a bit of space on the performance on saturday. He is not mobile enough for midfield anymore with the way we play and possibly slows us down. FF is his only position and while some will disagree, he gives us two positives on hitting long high ball and also brings a bit of fear to defenders. I read Horan said he was carrying a slight knock as well so let him knuckle down and get ready for the final. I can't see him not playing in FF tbh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭BandMember


    I see that the Cork County Board offered a final ticket to all their 2020 season ticket holders (Limerick didn't). It would be great if the Mayo County Board followed suit, but I don't see it happening unfortunately.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Fowler87


    I hope so too. My only chance of getting a ticket unfortunately. Slim and none though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Another thing to mention is just how relaxed most of the subs were when coming on into that cauldron.

    Darren Coen - who I can be quite critical of times - didn't let Philly annoy him and gave as good as he got. His point put us 2 up and what a bloody point it was. So many players wouldn't even dream of attempting that.

    Conor O'Shea came on and lost possession cheaply on two occasions. However, his pressure (and a cheeky little push) on Byrne let to the equalizing 45.

    Carr was disappointing with his two wide efforts and needs to do better, but he showed for the ball and got stuck in.

    The way the players marched into the tunnel was like an army. No slaps on backs/high fives, they knew it wasn't over. Great focus.

    What a **** team we have for the next few years.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Likely to be only the cairde mhaigheo brigade.

    Highly improbable for the season tickets issued from Croke Park.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭Bunny Colvin



    I'd be one happy man if that was the case. Here's hoping.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭Blackjack




  • Registered Users Posts: 28 SYMETAL


    The focus for Mayo should be totally on the All Ireland final. Nothing has been won yet, and they are in danger of celebrating too quickly, again.

    Mayo beat Dublin in the semi-final in 2006 and went on to get hammered by Kerry, by 13 points in the final.

    The win over Dublin will be very empty if they don't finish the job.



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