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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    The holding on to 2FM is a mystery



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    When it was first set up the Minister in charge had said it would pay for itself and that no licence fee increase would occur, by 2012 RTÉ was funding 2FM with the licence fee, they did not think to cut its funding by 25% rather it cut Children's Content, Drama and Comedy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭garrettod


    2FM with a national broadcasting license, its decent market share etc. could easily be sold - and would probably fetch near €50m.

    I'm basing that value on previous radio station sales in Ireland, which were well reported on in the national press (incl FM104, Today FM etc.)

    Given 2FM serves absolutely no public service purpose, and it's content is readily available on several other commercial stations - both it, and RTE2 should be sold immediately (with sale proceeds seized by the Government, before Dee Forbes and her mates hand it all out on overly generous severance packages, or new contracts for their cronies).

    And if anyone thinks I'm being unfair to RTE with that last comment, then just go and take a look at what happened to the €100m that they got for the sale of the 5 acres in Donnybrook, a couple of years ago.

    Thanks,

    G.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,801 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    The Bourne ultimatem rte2, I'm sure they've had this on many many times, kills a few hours for them I suppose



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The Tupe employment legislation would be a major issue for anyone interested in buying 2fm. The same thing happened when RTE tried to sell the RTE guide, a few publishers were interested in buying it but they all ran a mile when they found out that under tupe legislation they'd have to keep all the staff on the same pay and perks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭garrettod


    It's a consideration alright.

    However, in a scenario like this, the option would be either go with the station being sold, or be made redundant.

    Not everyone has to go with the sold station, some could be made redundant - say the highest paid.

    TUPE doesn't cover pension schemes, so that's one cost that can be cut by a new owner (assuming RTE have a very generous pension scheme). Also, I don't think it guarantees that you'll do the same job, or at the and location.

    In fairness, both RTE2 and 2FM are stations that could do well in private ownership, so there'd be a reason to keep a lot of the staff on, if you bought those stations - I would think you'd really just be focused on getting rid of the top earners.

    Thanks,

    G.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭garrettod


    http://www.superannrte.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5865:rte-briefs-staff&catid=31&Itemid=104

    Under the scheme, those with more than ten years service in the organisation will be offered six weeks pay per year of service, plus statutory redundancy, capped at 104 weeks pay.

    Those with less than ten years service will receive two weeks pay per year of service plus statutory redundancy.



    • 6 weeks per year of service, plus statutory (for those with over 10yrs service) is incredibly generous !


    Thanks,

    G.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    That is the previous scheme, I don't think they have announce the new scheme.

    RTÉ were able to move staff to RTÉ GOLD from 2FM when it was rebranded about 4 years ago. And while RTÉ had plans to close RTÉ Gold (darn Broadcasting Act 2009) there was never an attempted to rid RTÉ of any of its former 2FM presenters, from what I can see.

    If RTÉ were to sell RTÉ2 and 2fm clearly agreements with the new owner and the staff would be made.

    But sure look at how long it took them to transfer ownership of the NSO to the NCH... oh wait they are still trying to do that... the Minister as said it will happen in early 2021 .... hahahahhahahahahahahha it's **** August.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    For example Aidan Leonard  is Senior Producer in Charge of RTÉ GOLD ....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,729 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    If there’s a ‘senior producer’, I’m wondering how many ‘regular’ or ‘normal’ producers he has under him????


    this is I believe where the real scandal is in RTÉ, and something the secret producer alluded to a few years ago with the infamous Twitter account…… how many levels of senior management, mid-management, junior management, senior producer, mid, junior etc…… department heads, deputies etc…… are there in RTÉ??? And all mostly probably pulling salaries of circa €100k-€150k a year for doing the grand sum of fcuk all!


    I’d hazard a guess there’s at least 3-5 levels of various management in each department you’d have to go down before you found anyone that actually did any work..


    Anyway, enough of that serious talk……


    when is the Late Late show back on? And when will Nathan Carter be on for an appearance either on his own, or for a country music type special????

    the country has a Nathan Carter sized hole in its life right now, and the only thing that will solve it is a few huckle bucks here and there, and a twist it in and out and a do it all again……



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Jesus, hope they don't bring back Crystal Swing again...


    I mean Nathan Carter is one thing, but God help us all if Crystal Swing return... they're like the 7th circle of hell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,047 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    The 'Country Special' will have to wait I'm afraid, because the LLS is nothing if not predictable.

    1st episode will be an Olympics Special, with all our fantastic athletes appearing. Socially distanced of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,729 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Ah yes the Olympic special…..

    featuring such quotes as “Pull like a dog”, and “inner city troubled youth”, and Tubridy talking down to an Olympic Champion….


    not to mention some input from RTÉ employees who were on the Japanese Jolly about how hard it was out there to keep sanitising their hands, and staying 2m apart……


    and then Bernard Dunne.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,679 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Don't forget the how did the death of your mother, father... inspire you fight on and be the best and other mind numbing references to suffering and death



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In fairness, RTE played a blinder with its Olympics coverage. Peter Collins and Daragh Moloney were great and Jacqui Hurley is very capable and a lovely presenter. I thought it would be a damp squib on account of the time difference, in that we knew the result before we saw the footage. But I have to say I thought it was very well done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Well, provided nobody fails a drugs test between now and the show returning, it will be predictable, for sure. We 'might' have an interview with Kellie's partner (the media was curious not to interview her, unless she didnt' want to be interviewed-which is probable).

    Then we'll have past Olympians, but it will more than likely decend into the usual depressing, miserable account of all the Olympians who are no longer with us. Might throw in a special mention for Jimmy Magee. (Not insulting the late Mr Magee. I think he was a great loss to TV. But RTE always find a way to work in the misery angle.)

    Then bring on some miserable Irish music act, or the aforementioned Crystal Swing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    All the Studio staff played a blinder, you'd wonder why they send a team to Tokyo?

    If I build a good road to nowhere and pay top dollar for said road, there is nothing to suggest that the people involved didn't do a great job, the problem lies with me for getting a road built to nowhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,579 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    "The 'Country Special' will have to wait I'm afraid, because the LLS is nothing if not predictable."

    What used to make the LLS great back in the day was that it was entirely unpredictable.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,200 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    not a chance would you get 50 million for it now, the days of stations selling for crazy money are on the way out.

    and realistically we don't need another private sector national station that would only offer more pop and prattle, it's not as if today fm is setting the world alight.

    rte have a couple of stations on saorview and online, formerly on dab, putting one of them on the transmission network would serve everyone better then selling off a vital transmission network for more of the same that 2fm offers, because ultimately the reason people want 2fm to be sold is because it offers more of the same that is already offered.

    as for RTE 2, forget about selling it, about the only interest there might be is for an operator to turn it into another transmitter for ITV, which is pointless and already catered to by virgin media anyway, and realistically that is all that would be viable here now.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,732 ✭✭✭Red Silurian




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    I think the end of the road is talking about Virgin Media Television not its cable network.

    Together RTÉ2 and 2fm could potentially get about 50m, based on the sale of Communicorp stations to Bauer earlier in the year. Individually they would be worth much less. Both still have some goodwill that would be worth something to a potential investor, but I image we will only know they appetite for broadcast services when Liberty Global get a buyer for Virgin Media.

    In reality RTÉ2 is not much more than VIRGIN MEDIA FOUR.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    BTW a question for those who watch and listen to RTÉ (I'd been very on and off). When was the last time you saw or heard a promotion for any of their services excluding RTÉ ONE and Sport on RTÉ2? (and what was it for)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,200 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    for clarity i am talking about virgin media television, they buy in most if not all of their programming from ITV.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,732 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Ah I see, they buy in a lot from ITV but they do produce their own stuff as well... Gogglebox being a prime example, Irelands Got Tallent being another example, albeit not very well done at least they tried lol



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,801 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    And indeed it looks like rte have plans for the great Nathan, being courted if you don't mind, cool as ya like not a bother on them 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,679 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Karoake competition on TV - says it all about RTE



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,024 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    You only had to listen to the awful Liveline garbage today to understand why so many question absorbant salaries at RTE and the License Fee. Its presenter earns an estimated €400k PA for a 75 minute gig, 5 days a week, it's just shocking.

    I appreciate part of the fee goes beyond RTE but mother of God its output is utterly appalling, notwithstanding the fact its entire new room has been empty for over a month and "So called Contractors gone for weeks on end"

    This said, Virgin Media"s home produced tabloidish rubbish is not much better.

    Put simply, scrap RTE, scrap the license, allow consumers actual choice and if a digital style license for every household is required, so be it. I'm sick to the teeth of RTE, it's outrageous salaries, it's blatant Nepotism and the complete Shyte it broadcasts.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Nothing happening from an American perspective or a British perspective, thankfully Northern Irish Soldiers who served in Afghanistan were available up there, you imagine that both the American and British Correspondents would be chatting with 3 or 4 of those Soldiers about how the feel as Afghanistan heads into turmoil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    What was the carry on last night, RTE 1 having a royal love in from half nine,VM1 usually show that vomit



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,548 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Tonight they have Ant & Dec's DNA Journey, it was previously shown in November 2019 on ITV and sponsored by Ancestry.com, perhaps RTE have done their own sponsorship deal with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,289 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    The homegrown stuff is absolutely shite, anything worth watching is available on other channels. The salaries are absolute scandalous for the audience numbers they are reaching. I'd feel sorry for the older generation who would miss it, but I cant imagine anyone under the age of 60 would care less if it disappeared.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,801 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    I check the schedules every evening and its very rare I'd find anything I'd be interested in watching these days, even tg4 has become stale imv



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Surely a special report on Prince Andrews upcoming case in NY?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,608 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing you didn't watch the Diana documentary.

    It was directed by Jemma Chisnall who is a BAFTA winner and was anything but a "royal love in".

    Some previously unseen footage and new interviews helped to give fresh insight to the life of an erstwhile royal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    It is still surprising how RTÉ failed to broadcast (or attempt to get the broadcast rights to) Newsnights interview with Prince Andrew and yet when they push other "royal" programming some how the broadcast is in someway important. Here's a broadcaster who seemed to gloss over the recent controversy about Diana's interview with the BBC's Martin Bashir. But sure lets buy in an ITV programme that would have otherwise appeared on Virgin Media.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭MBE220d


    I see another new sports presenter on the 6.1 news drafted in to cover for the other sports presenters that were in Tokyo, who now need another holiday to recover from their Tokyo holiday, sure is a handy number.



  • Registered Users Posts: 514 ✭✭✭Ozvaldo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,608 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I'm not sure that's true.

    A well made documentary about one of the iconic public figures of the late 20th century.

    Let's maybe wait for the viewer figures?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    TG4 had Star Trek and Shazam was on RTE 2, who'd want to watch a documentary about are woman so dim she couldnt put on a seatbelt



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    I wonder if that NewsNight interview with Prince Andrew would have got as many viewers? I suppose we will never know.



  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭MBE220d


    We have our own royal family up in the big house in the phoenix park, surprised RTE hasn't made a documentary about them, they do enough fawning over them to make one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,801 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    ^^^Our very own Queen 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    TG4 produced https://www.tg4.ie/en/player/home/?pid=6249108813001 ómós Micheal D @ 80

    They also had a series of shows on each president.



  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭MBE220d




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Way to fastlane, continental drift would be close but maybe a wee bit to fast compared to the gnome uttering pretentious twaddle



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Virgin Media"s home produced tabloidish rubbish is not much better.

    Put simply, scrap RTE, scrap the license, allow consumers actual choice 


    If you allow the 'free market' free reign over what we watch and abandon any concept of 'public srervice broadcasting, you're just going to get wall-to-wall Virgin Media-type content



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,801 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    95% of the rte schedule seems to be made up of"virgin media type content "at the moment, the whole thing seems to exist in order to keep the montrose set in the fashion to which they have been accustomed... During this pandemic the state broadcaster seems to have morphed into the propaganda wing of die kommissar fur gesundheit und lebensmittelsicherheit, churning out unquestioningly pr statements from the government and branding anyone who has even the mildest misgivings about the way we are going as "anti-vaxer conspiracy theorists" or that all encompassing "far right".. Their constant menu of doom and misery has filled those who are unfortunate enough to tune in regularly full of fear and dread for the future contributing in no small measure to an air of tension, bitterness, fear and curtain-twitching tell-tale tut tutting I witness all around me each day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Okay you don't like the slant of pandemic coverage, but if you privatised RTE, you'd end up with minimal, shoestring news & current affairs content, along with documentaries, arts programming, drama and anything else that doesn't make a buck.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,801 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    I am for public broadcasting, and any serious independent country should have a national broadcasting entity, but a very slimmed down operation which concentrates on broadcasting shows and news of national interest such as culture, art, history and sport and respects the opinions of all its citizens who in the end are the ones who pay their wages, its just that at the moment there seems to be little difference between the national broadcaster and the commercial outfits, imv the last decent current affairs programme on this part of the island was "tonight with Vincent Browne" and that was on tv3



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