Denis Villeneuve’s Dune

pixelburp · 22-07-2021 2:16pm

Well, I just got a massive brainer.

That looks utterly spectacular (assuming it doesn't ultimately suck); if this fails at the box office, then truly we don't deserve nice things. Do we know the run-time for this?

odyssey06 · 22-07-2021 2:24pm

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Have you seen him in The King?

I thought he was quite good in that in, as wayward heir Prince Hal becoming King Henry V.

I think it would the closest of his previous roles to that of Paul.

The King (2019) - IMDb

Mickeroo · 22-07-2021 2:28pm

Hook it to my veins!

MisterAnarchy · 22-07-2021 2:36pm

Looks very impressive.

Will have to venture to the cinema to see this.

Tony EH · 22-07-2021 2:39pm

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No. But it's not his acting that I have an issue with. Can't say for sure what's putting me off. I'm just having a real hard time seeing him as Paul Atreides.

banie01 · 22-07-2021 2:41pm

Well I am very, very pleased with that!

Visually very impressive and like the nod towards Fremen oppression too.

pixelburp · 22-07-2021 2:43pm

Worth watching The King then, as it would go a long way to show how Chalamet can transcend his slightly .. I dunno, wet blanket appearance? The movie itself was a bit of a chore at times but Chalamet's performance worked well.

odyssey06 · 22-07-2021 2:43pm

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No worries, I had the same 'vibe' about him until I saw The King.

johnny_ultimate · 22-07-2021 2:54pm

Frankly, Chalamet was woefully miscast in The King IMO - he just can’t pull off what the role demands. The film’s only worth watching for a gloriously OTT performance from Robert Pattinson.

I do think Chalamet was excellent in Call Me By Your Name, Lady Bird and Little Women, mind - three films which have him operating on the right wavelengths.

Tony EH · 22-07-2021 3:21pm

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Yeh. He's just kinda wishy washy to me. But then again, I'm going to have a hard time with most of the new actors I reckon, cos the Lynch version has cemented certain people into my mind.

I'll put 'The King' down on the To Do list. I might get to it in 2025.

opus · 22-07-2021 3:33pm

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For sure, a few friends & myself are ready to book tickets now 🙂

Drumpot · 22-07-2021 8:08pm

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I was just thinking this…. Looking forward to this none the less

redlad12 · 22-07-2021 8:10pm

Whens the Irish release date?

Drumpot · 22-07-2021 8:23pm

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Agree with this. Haven’t seen him in anything other then the king but when I first saw him at start of the King I thought he was quite weak (lacking in any charisma/presence) but realised it was the character and he got much better as the character grew in the story. Thought he was great.

pixelburp · 22-07-2021 8:39pm

The HBO Bene Gesserit spin off looks to be back on; Diane Ademu-John, writer with the Haunting of Bly Manor, has taken up the mantle of showrunner after Jon Spaiht stepped down (to work on the Dune sequel's script).

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/dune-tv-series-hbo-max-showrunner-diane-ademu-john-1235024854

Sad Professor · 22-07-2021 8:42pm

I thought The King was great and Chalamet was good in it too. Mind you it's Netflix so my expectations were extremely low. In any case, I think he's well cast as Paul, at least as he's described in the book.

It seems the film's on-screen title will be "Dune: Part One". And according to the Danish rating board, it's 155 minutes long.

MfMan · 23-07-2021 3:19pm

And it differs from Star Wars, how?

pixelburp · 23-07-2021 3:55pm

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Well; Dune was written 12 years before Star Wars came out, so maybe the question is the wrong way around 😁

odyssey06 · 23-07-2021 4:10pm

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Nothing like Star Wars.

Think Game of Thrones in space and you'd be a bit closer to what to expect :)

Bearing in mind Dune pre-dates them all.

peteeeed · 23-07-2021 4:37pm

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i think its oct 23rd

Sad Professor · 23-07-2021 7:04pm

First two tracks of Hans Zimmer's score:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdtiYwSP9ko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgzE2TeXCl0

fitz · 23-07-2021 11:23pm

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Second track is reminiscent of Johann Johannsson's work on Sicario, and some of Mick Gordon's more ambient pieces from Doom. Sounds like it could be a cracking score.

Dufflecoat Fanny · 24-07-2021 10:05am

Soundtrack from the 1984 DUNE will never be bettered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4onBqilHvc

silverharp · 24-07-2021 11:02am

looks like what the Star Wars films could have been

Sad Professor · 10-08-2021 6:43am

Underwhelming official poster:

johnny_ultimate · 10-08-2021 7:15am

Is there a certain amount of hubris in a tagline like 'it begins' for this? Ditto already planning for a sequel and TV series. I'd love to see this being a hit, as it's always great to see auteur-driven big budget blockbusters succeed. But it's a cult / niche series (already adapted as an infamous flop), a director whose last serious-minded sci-fi movie wasn't a major hit, and a pandemic-era release that'll see this streaming immediately at the same time as a cinema release.

Hopefully the film itself will be good regardless (I'm not the biggest Villeneuve fan, but he certainly makes eye-catching films). But it just seems there's a certain level of swagger and confidence about the whole 'IP' (shudder) that seems rather... over-optimistic. I'm hoping I'm wrong on that.

Sad Professor · 10-08-2021 8:12am

The problem is the planned sequel is the second half of the film. The marketing isn’t brave enough to acknowledge this. The hubris was in the decision to split the film in first place.

peteeeed · 16-08-2021 9:10am

Hans Zimmer has Composed a Second Original Score for ‘Dune’

Slated to release Oct. 22, the soundtrack will accompany Insight Editions' 'The Art and Soul of Dune,' a making-of book written by 'Dune' executive producer Tanya Lapointe.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/hans-zimmer-second-dune-score-film-companion-book-1234997876/

Dades · 17-08-2021 11:13am

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That's it right there. There will be a lot of people who will only find this out watching the movie and they will feel cheated.

I remember watching The Crimes of Grindelwald in the cinema and it dawned on me there wasn't going to be a legendary wizard duel because they'd squeezed the story.

The Hobbit is the most cynical of this move.

breezy1985 · 17-08-2021 11:21am

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The Hobbit was especially shocking seeing as it came on the back of movies absolutely praised for their excellent adaptations. Then for the Hobbit we get a dragged out mess full of sexy dwarves and 😠 Legolas.

I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with Dune. It will probably upset book people but I don't mind if they tone down the high concept a little bit for the movie and there is no way it will be as awful as Lynch's Dune

Dades · 17-08-2021 12:02pm

Sexy dwarves 😅

Rewatched the original Dune recently and I'll admit I like how mad it is.

I hope there's a bit of character in the new one and it's not too much up its own arse.

splashthecash · 17-08-2021 12:17pm

So they have split the book into two films due to the sheer size\scale of the book, which is fair enough but the second film isn't a sure thing? Going down the road of splitting the book into multiple films needs to come along with a commitment by the studio to greenlight the next film (ala LOTR trilogy)....

Would be an awful shame if the first film doesn't live up to the studio's financial expectations and then we are left with a half told version of one of the most acclaimed sci-fi stories

breezy1985 · 17-08-2021 12:23pm

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I'm really hoping the cast can swing it in terms of box office (or whatever) figures. Even if the people who see it don't really get it it won't matter if the interest is there and they don't all walk out completely slating it

odyssey06 · 17-08-2021 12:25pm

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Yeah there's parts of the Lynch Dune that are awesome. And parts that are awful.

You don't know from one scene to the next what you will get...

Overall it's a mess but certain scenes stick with me in a good way. And I thought the casting was very good.

o1s1n · 17-08-2021 12:28pm

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1984 Dune is a masterpiece, you take that back! :D

Sting, Toto, Kyle Maclachlan, Patrick Stewart, H.R Giger set design - all directed by David Lynch. It's such a bizarre mish mash of people and things from the 80s I've always loved it as a result.

I also still reckon the stillsuit designs in Lynch's film look better than this new Villeneuve one.

breezy1985 · 17-08-2021 12:28pm

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Given some of the names attached I thought the level of acting was really poor. Everyone sounds like they are just reading lines deadpan off a teleprompter

breezy1985 · 17-08-2021 12:32pm

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I agree about the still suits and some of the characters like the navigators looked good too. But then on the other side you had things like that really cheap looking FTL travel sequence, panto Harkonnens and the weirding guns

johnny_ultimate · 17-08-2021 12:36pm

Splitting The Hobbit in three doomed the films on a creative / quality level, but it’s hard to deny the cynical financial sense in such a move - they were dealing with proven hit material. The trilogy was catastrophically over-stretched in terms of watching the bloody things, but a near $3 billion box office total means they were a ‘hit’ by the studio’s metrics. And the films all being part of one production ensured all the films would at least see the light of day (although if I recall the decision to make a third film was made mid-production?).

Dune comes into the world with nowhere near the same audience recognition and no guaranteed sequel. A very different proposition alas, even if I’ve little doubt this’ll be a more interesting film than Peter Jackson’s endlessly disappointing prequel trilogy.

17-08-2021 12:46pm

I don't get it. In a civ where they have space ships etc they still fight with knifes? And sunglasses are not invented?

pixelburp · 17-08-2021 1:20pm

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"The slow knife penetrates the shield". In this universe the nobility wear personal shield tech that prevents attack by fast moving projectiles ... swords and knives, pushed slowly through, work fine though.

o1s1n · 17-08-2021 1:46pm

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'panto Harkonnens' haha! 😁 never quite heard them described like that, definitely very fitting.

The FTL sequence is really weird, parts of it do look very cheap... parts of it are great though. I love that big ornate weird gold door they all fly into on the side of the ship. So odd but it really works.

Rael · 17-08-2021 1:55pm

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Don't forget the bin bag Sardaukar and respect Sting by referring to him properly, that is Sting in his underpants 😆

Rael · 17-08-2021 1:56pm

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Meh, just shoot them with a laser, what's the worst that could happen?

xper · 17-08-2021 2:15pm

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That would set off a small nuclear explosion IIRC

pixelburp · 17-08-2021 2:33pm

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Yeah, that was what my memories of the book wanted to say; using energy weapons (and that possibly includes kinetic energy like bullets) against a personal shield would just bounce the absorbed energy back at the attacker.

Rael · 17-08-2021 5:58pm

T'was a (inside) joke lads ;)

peteeeed · 17-08-2021 6:07pm

Denis Villeneuve says he thinks ‘DUNE PART 2’ is likely to happen “as Warner Bros & Legendary are 100% behind the project. They feel it would need a really bad outcome at the box office to not have a Dune: Part 2 because they love the movie.

https://www.gamesradar.com/dune-2-is-not-a-sure-thing-but-director-denis-villeneuve-is-optimistic/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_content=total-film

Dufflecoat Fanny · 17-08-2021 8:50pm

The timing off this and the fukcing taliban wave is gas

pixelburp · 18-08-2021 8:54am

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Given the book is more than 50 years old and its themes of interventionism in the Middle East still remains relevant and topical is also depressing. I look forward to all the Think Pieces on the internet when they realise this still story of space worms was also (always) about exploiting native peoples for resources.

xper · 18-08-2021 9:13am

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Nothing in that article suggests anything other than what we already suspect. If this is another Bladerunner 2049 at the box office, we’re not getting part 2.

That said, I didn’t think the marketing for 2049 was particularly well done for the wider potential audience. With this, they have a cast of charismatic performers with wide-ranging appeal so they should s add t least be able to generate initial interest.

Is it coming out against any strong opposition from Marvel or elsewhere?

Denis Villeneuve’s Dune

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