Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

There's a modelling team led by Philip Nolan within NPHET and they model four versions of R0 with different methodologies. IIRC they tend to go with the Imperial College approach.

"So the plan is to keep covid restrictions forever"

Despite the fact that everyone (bar the few perpetually frightened on Twitter) wanting to see an end to restrictions? Despite the government wanting an end to restrictions? Do you really think politicians want to be living their lives as they are now? Despite all other countries looking to end restrictions? Some have even done so already. Despite that fact we have had worse pandemics before (Spanish Flu) and lives went on as normal. But no, you're right, restrictions forever in a new normal...🙄

I'm not going to accuse anyone of conspiracy theories, etc. as there are a lot of valid points on here. But from a cursory glance through this thread, there are definitely a few posters who would like to see vaccines fail and restrictions continue, for no other reason than to say "I told you so".

Don't be silly, they are going to be using"public health advice". Now that changes from slightly concerned to Uber concerned on a sliding scale. If it comes to pass, which is a big IF right now, we will have a group of unelected public health officials dictating government policy for at least the next 6 months.

Who knows though, it may be all guff in the Examiner as well.

Well the AND gate is not going to allow an output before spring as hospitals have struggled every winter over the past decade.

Leo Varadkar, Ursula von der leyen, Macron, Merkel and Trudeau all met with him too. All quoting Build back better in later press conferences. And now we have bio passports, moves towards a cashless society.

Could you not describe the Dáil as a talking shop? As laws usually start out as talks do they not?

Querying your opinions here:

What do you think can be the impact of easing the remaining restrictions on the increase of the circulation of the virus?

The vrus is already circulating a lot in the community and we currently have travel opened, we have 83% of people who are allowed to use hospitality inside...

Do you think that reopening the remaining restrictions would lead to a lot more contacts for each person ? I can foresee going back to the workplace as a major increase of number of contacts, but I am unsure about the rest of the restrictions. If I take a few examples I face:

• Gym is limited to 50 people, but if there were no restrictions, there wouldn't be more than 60/70 people at peak time, and that does not mean that I would have more contacts in a session.
• Swimming pool: there is no shower allowed, you have to shower at home. I don't expect a major peak of contaminations if showers were back.
• Stadium: like anything else outside, if you multiply by 5 the number of people in a stadium, that does not automatically multiply by 5 the number of contacts the average person has in this stadium.

My opinion is that except the workplace, we have ~80% of our daily contacts. We already meet our friends and family, if you relax restrictions you give more options to people but not necessarily increase their contacts. Like if bowlings are opened, instead of spending a night with your friends in the pub, you spend it with the same friends playing bowling. It is not necessarily people doing more with more people.

There are 17% of adults (and 0% of children) not allowed to eat inside, do you really think that allowing these 17% young people eating inside would have a high impact on the hospital numbers ?

Christ your feel like screaming

We're going to be paddy last as always and will still have restrictions heading into 2022

With such good Vaccine uptake, it's a joke the way we're been forced to live like this because of our failing health system

Penny dropping in the USA. Having a rethink

Wait until the 3 dosers turn on the 2 dosers and look for the people with only 2 doses to be excluded and forced to sit outside with the unvaccinated with their pint while the 3 dosers are having a whale of a time inside.