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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    They've just cut news as usual for August. No evening or late night news on 2FM, but sport reports? no news on RTÉ2.

    Name an Arts show?

    Name a Drama?

    Name a Comedy?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Okay but if you did that and maintained the current funding system, you'd massively increase resentment of the licence fee among people who mainly watch RTE for Fair City or Operation Transformation or whatever...



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,801 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    I suppose you have a point there to be honest , I'll have to think about that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    If you want to go down your proposed route of trimming RTE back to a BBC4-type highbrow channel, to me the logical corollary of that is to move to a system of direct taxpayer funding, and probably scrap advertising altogether.

    How often do you hear people complaining about their tax euros funding TG4, even though I presume only a tiny minority watch it any way regularly? Same goes for ballet, opera and such taxpayer-funded 'elite' pursuits.

    I think this is probably where we'll end up eventually, given that many other countries fund their 'public service broadcasting' that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    This is perhaps one reason why you shouldn't fund PBS from the exchequer, people don't notice it, I'd say few people realize that Channel 4 is owned by the British Government or that TG4 is not part of RTÉ. Indeed TG4 lost funding only to have it replace by a portion of the license fee between 2011 and 2018.

    What happens with the NSO as part of the NCH is there anyway of getting them to explain how they have used their money, and do we have audience who could potential complain when they are not providing a service?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭garrettod


    Here we go again... FFS...

    Dee Forbes really needs to get her own house in order ( or be replaced ! )

    ---------------------------------------------

    Public service media 'so important to Ireland' - Forbes

    http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0818/1241522-rte-season/

    "RTÉ's Director General has said there needs to be a meaningful solution to the sustainability of public service broadcasting."

    ... That sustainability comes from cutting rediculous and unnecessary expenditure - paying €3m to ten people, not to mention circa €300k remuneration to herself, is not what I consider to be helping to sustain our public service broadcaster 😳

    Also, what happened to those pay cuts that were proposed (but rejected by the staff back in April - surprise surprise) ... Does Dee just get to say, ah sorry, we asked the staff and they declined, so we can't do anything more?

    Thanks,

    G.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    RTE have been trying to get a 'broadcasting' charge on the likes of Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Disney plus, to name a few.

    In the olden days of Analogue, Terrestrial television, she might have gotten such a tax. However, with the days of digital, streaming, and internet access meaning they no longer have a hold on such services, they'd be hard pressed to get it. (especially since many of those company's are creating employment, here in Ireland- compared to the nepotistic environment of RTE where it's who you know, not how good you are).

    I'd say she thought a Fine Fail lead government might give them that tax. But Covid put the kibosh on that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,679 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    Ireland is such a tiny market for Netflix that if they even tried that they would just say yeah no thanks and block their service in Ireland cue everyone using a VPN to still get the service

    It's just another example of RTE wanting everyone to give them money for a substandard service and to service their luvvies



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,548 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    If it was the 80's the government of the time would have allowed RTE to turn off the interenet after 5pm so nobody could watch Netflix.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,019 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    They really need to keep the interns out of the newsroom.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Did you not know that spelling, reading, writing or math is no longer required to be educated shur? That enforcing any of those 4 requirements for passing is racist?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,801 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Like any job, if they can't get the small things right then how in the hell can you trust them with the big things



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    In the Radio forum there was a thread on one of their radio newsreaders, which as closed because it might offend him

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058196188/newsreader-danny-keown-rte



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Almost 2 years since RTE announced "major" cutbacks, the only one that they have actually implemented is closing the DAB radio transmitters in Dublin, Cork & Limerick. a poster on the radio forum calculated that closing these transmitters has saved just €77 per week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    interesting , i certainly wouldn't be impressed if i logged in here and saw a thread "ash j williams, the worst artificial cattle inseminator in ireland" it's like a reverse linkedin , it would affect future employment prospects etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    So that means some pleb who has to wash the cups is now entitled to Name brand milk in his/ her coffee, rather than the cheap stuff from Lidl.


    Probably didn't save anything, tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    True, but if Ash J. Williams could not impregnate after 2 years of manual masturbating a bull, there would be question for Mr. Williams employer as to why he was still only collecting sperm and not following it with the insemination of the cows. Not one calf after 2 years!

    And TBH it is not a case of accent or even a case of mispronunciation, it is a case of the national broadcaster failing to train the person and/or help the person improve.

    Do we have to tippy-toe around everyone these days. I suppose much like myself the newsreader is Dyslexic.

    Hopefully Newstalk will listen to applications for newsreaders rather than just look at their CV/LinkedIN.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    i've a 100% success rate and also sell milkshakes with the leftovers



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,548 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Nothing at all on RTE about the extensive flooding in retail outlets in Dundrum and Cornelscourt yesterday, must not suit their advertisers to report it. Their 'climate change' reporting must be filtered like the way they cover other 'cultural' topics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,960 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Why are they wasting money on a show called Glow Up, where Maura Higgins looks for Ireland's next makeup star?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,801 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    They need at least one original for RTÉ2, and it is desperate to be BBC THREE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k



    This line up... Also, couldn't even spell Keelin Shanley's name right in the announcement. Fer gawd's sake.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,528 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    "The Irish Wedding" - A study in what D4 heads think happens outside the M50, including many staged scenarios of same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Donnie the CNN superstar from Ireland has his own Doc on RTÉ, oh look there's a bandwagon, oh look RTÉ's trying to get on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    The irony too. He more than likely had to leave the country because RTE 'weren't hiring'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    RTE are now showing a series from CNN about Diana and the Royals, regardless of audience this isn't something that would generally be put on RTÉ. Virgin Media could easily buy and it would suit their ITV Royal love-ins. but you know that Andrew guy you'd not want to mention him or his problems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,548 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    I'm assuming RTE didn't commission this new report as it's not broken down to granual level to include those who identify as the starting motor from a 1996 Opel Kadett.


    A new report on diversity in RTÉ has found that, on average, more men than women participated in discussions on radio and television programmes during a period in 2020.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0825/1242866-diversity-report/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    It was paid for by the BAI with the use of the Licence Fee, rather then making content they invest into academic reports.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    RTE News Now is truly a comedy News programme; can anyone name a News Channel that shows Mass, apart from,probably,The Vatican?! They open the batting by showing the radio presenters of Morning Ireland reading the news, which is essentially like watching paint dry for the rest of us. This is then changed to the lunchtime news which is repeated ad nauseam until teatime,when TG4 news and the signing news is shoved in, to fill a gap until the Angelus (which is severely due banishment or an update). All the while, they play the Euronews tune relentlessly when a news presenter or weather presenter isn't actually speaking. After the 6pm news, guess what? it's repeated again and again until eventually we are graced with Euronews, which appears to be a holding cell for people who failed to get into RTE the first time. Could somebody please put RTENN out of our misery?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    I am not sure I understand the Euronews turn. They usually use RTÉ news' own theme during the day.

    RTÉ seem to have a problem with news bulletins on TV in the morning, they can't give an answer as to why they don't or can't have a TV news bulletin except at the weekend at 1pm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,548 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    More salary news from RTE released, would be very interested what the 22 who are on €150k-250k do in the organisation...

    117 staff members at RTÉ last year earned in excess of €100,000 in basic salary. That is according to new figures published by RTÉ which show that of the 117 staff members, 22 earned between €150,000 and €250,000.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/rte-salaries-top-earners-5533939-Aug2021/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Very few enterprises would be so top heavy in the wage department



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Of the top of my head non-Executive board executives could include (There are 10 exe board members)

    Head of Sport

    Head of Acquisitions and Broadcasting

    Head of Independent Productions Unit (Within this you have genre "group" heads)

    Head of Corporate Communications

    Head of Scheduling

    Head of 2FM

    Head of Radio 1

    Head of Lyric FM

    Head of RnaG

    Head of Music Groups

    Head of RTÉ online

    Head of Facilities/Studio

    Head of I have just made up this position and I think we should all take a 6 week break at the end of July



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,548 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    How unwoke from the normally ultra in your face woke organisation...

    Asked for a gender breakdown on those earning over €100,000, the spokesman said: “RTÉ does not publish a breakdown of salary bands by gender."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,679 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    In other words it's basically all men else they would have to pay an auditor thousands of euros to count the female names



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,579 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Scrap the cap!



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  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anybody can see Montrose is a total basket case of over inflated egos, nepotism, cronyism & next to zero real 'talent' ......its an 'old boy's club, always was & always will be. All in all, it's a VERY failed model & I think even the insiders are aware of this. It's been said on here a million times....... let's go for a 'pay per view' model & see how long they last. I think even the last 2/3 governments ( that are, let's be honest, totally interdependent/ entwined with each other) are well aware that it's a joke at this stage. €160 a year for fair city, biased news coverage , and some truly dodgy radio presenters ( Lottie Ryan, Jennifer zamparelli, dorieann etc.)..... it sure ain't a sustainable model.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,240 ✭✭✭✭briany


    RTE is sorely in need of financial restructuring, IMO, but not being folded altogether. Anyone cheering on the latter is being pretty short-sighted because we're now in a world where everyone has their own customised singlular experience when it comes to the media they consume and chucking RTE would be to get rid of one of the last halfway shared thing amongst the general public.

    My thought is that it should be funded purely by the TV license and the relevant cuts be made so that would work. If that means that Ryan Turbridy leaves to try his hand at cracking the UK market and that the channel can only broadcast for 10 hours a day, so be it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,047 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    We can't lose the RTE News Now, otherwise how are we going to get those little titbits of info about Love Island and other such important things in life?



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nothing "short sighted" about calling for it to be disbanded..... the "open" market, quality, pay-per-view, all these options should be looked at......its a joke to keep it just trolling along as it is....... like an old dog with terminal cancer sooner or later someone HAS to make the call......... it's a national disgrace........I certainly wouldn't miss it in its current ridiculous form



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    But you know doing that would decimate RTE's income and it would be forced to gut all the 'worthy' stuff like drama and documentaries and you'd end up Virgin 1-2. Okay if you're a hardcore libertarian free marketeer you might shrug your shoulders and say "Fine, the public gets what the public wants" but we don't have any political parties with that outlook so it's hard to see how that proposal could be advanced.



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Exactly, no political party wants to be 'associated' with Montrose..........everyone can see the bigger picture, it's a failed model that continues to fail.......im all for " the public gets what public wants"........but this system definitely Isn't what vast majority of public "wants". IMO there hasn't been anything on the in last few years deserving of a tax/ fee of €160. Pay per view is the way forward for ALL broadcasting providers.....if it's good enough it'll flourish. If I go to a nice restaurant with Mrs Mc carthy & the bill comes to €80, fair enough, but if the waitress says " oh it's actually €160 because tommy& Mary at table 7 had a couple bottles wine.......... why should I be on the hook/ taxed for something I never wanted/ asked for/ benefited from"???? Ultimately, political will will cease greasing the 'hand that's out' & Montrose will devour itself......personall, I believe the sooner the better



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Exactly, no political party wants to be 'associated' with Montrose.

    I don't know how you got that from my post when my point was pretty much the exact opposite. No party wants to be advocating the effective evisceration of RTE, which is what a move to pay per view would mean in practice. If a politician was arguing for a move to that model and it was put to them that it would mean taking an axe to arts, documentaries, Irish language programming etc., that politician, if they were being honest, would have to be prepared to shrug their shoulders and say "The public gets what the public wants." And no political party wants to be tarred as anti-intellectual and philistine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    "Now taking an axe to arts, documentaries, Irish language programming etc."

    Pretty much already happened. You could ad Drama, comedy and children's TV to that list also.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭PieOhMy


    Old dog with terminal cancer is going to be a guest on the late late show. One of the "fun" episodes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    And as soon as they bring the dog out, they'll interview the owner, ask about the dog's life... then bring out the vet who will then put the dog to sleep. 😭😭😭

    Followed by Una Healy and Nathan Carter singing a cover of the Sarah McLachlan track 'I will Remember You'... but butchering it beyond belief.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    When Will Leahy and Rick O'Shea got "too old" for 2fm, they got moved to online station RTE Gold but they were kept on the same wages as they had on 2fm, despite RTE Gold having no audience measure and no advertising income coming in.



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