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Gemma O'Doherty - Part 2 - Read OP for mod warning (06/01)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Yep. I am convinced that Irelands far right have radicalised a large enough cabal and that it is inevitable that a Batley and Spen type incident will happen.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Yeah, well that'd be US Evangelists mostly, maybe South American too. But in the UK there's a tendency for the Right to support Israel. This could be seen on Twitter by vociferously anti EU Brixiteers during their referendum. You can see a lot of Bio pics with the Union Flag, USA flag and Israeli flag. I notice this on Dutch and French Right Winger bios too (Sans UK and US flags).

    Maybe it's a case of the enemy of my enemy (that being Muslims) being my friend, at least for now.


    As for the anti semitism from the British and sometimes European hard Left... I dunno where that comes from.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    As for the anti semitism from the British and sometimes European hard Left... I dunno where that comes from.

    "The socialism of fools" is what one mordant observer called it...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    Id say Germ will want to burn all Aldi stores down if she sees the new advert with the SSC



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Has anybody a link to these anti-semetic outbursts?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Since aciquestion's account has been suspended it's been a, matter of having to go to gemmaodoherty.com.

    But it's very tough on the ears.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Gemma and John did a broadcast on friday night giving their manifesto on what they will do if they are in power if the current regime is removed, they will expell all the multinationals from Ireland, repatriate all the immigrants, ban under 18s having mobile phones and bring back a Catholic school curriculum. They admit with their economic policy that people will have to make do with 15yo cars and no forgin holidays.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,973 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    I'd say they're watching the collapse of Afghanistan with envy.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Look I'll be honest, taking phones from teenagers had me curious. I'm only human.

    As to "repatriate the immigrants", I'm going to take a big swing and suspect in their mind, certain immigrants will be exempt. Certain complexions for sure.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,500 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    John was out walking at Sandycove this morning. I resisted the temptation to roar "I hear you're a racist now John" at him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    Some quotes from a Tiktok vid that is doing the rounds (I saw it on whatsapp) - contains Gemma and John's plans for a fascist state in Ireland. Finding it difficult to share here, but it really is a most extraordinary slice of homegrown fascism. With a straight face they advocate for the criminalization of all political parties in the country, and generously offer themselves to be our very own Irish autocrats to save us from the evils of democracy. All that's missing is a "Sieg Heil!" (These are all actual quotes from GOD and JW, though they may appear exaggerated.)

    "John and I believe that politics has failed".

    "If this moment is achieved where the people in Leinster House have no choice but to stand down.....because sufficient numbers will surround the Dail until such time as they leave, and leave permanently".

    "And then there is a vaccum, and it is at that point that John and I would be presenting ourselves to be those who remove the architecture of globalism in this country within one year."

    "We would begin by making Fianna Fail, Fine Gael, Sinn Fein, An Garda Siochana and the HSE, all of the NGOs that have been promoting the filth and degeneracy all around us, illegal organisations. This has to happen, this has to happen."

    "We would be launching a repatriation programme (of immigrants) - because we know that the immigration to our country has been artificially forced upon us by the globalists."

    "They (immigrants) are coming in on these vast trucks you see on our roads".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,366 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Good Christ those quotes would make your head hurt. I’m still convinced this is a piss take by the two lads because this is loopy shite.



  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Same sh1te as from Barrett, Tanboy etc mixed into one, they seem to share the same script writers, and repeated by various tools online.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    I was thinking that, that it is just one big practical joke. But then you remember that Trump is dead serious, and so are the tens of millions who believe that he really won the election and that the Dems are child eating satan worshippers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    What I find fascinating about them is that they sit there with a straight face and put themselves forward as the saviours of our country. Two people who are largely despised and laughed at believe that the Irish people will sweep them to power and support them in their fascist project.

    The levels of delusion and narcissism needed for such a belief are staggering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,660 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Don't go to her website. Don't link her website. Don't watch her videos. Especially, don't repost edited highlights of her videos!

    Grifters can't grift without likes, clicks, shares, follows and pageviews. It really is that simple.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


     Finding it difficult to share here, but it really is a most extraordinary slice of homegrown fascism.

    You're trying to re-share fascist propaganda. Think about that for a second.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Its not "loopy shite" - it is literal authoritarian fascism coming from them.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yep, the fun that has been taken out of peoples lives by covid restrictions such as nightclubs, bars unrestricted international travel etc are things Gemma would ban too so it's like an out of the frying pan into the fire situation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,537 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    If it is a pisstake it is a pisstake that andy kaufman would be in awe of. in other words, it isn't.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Yeah, there's a point where we can all have laugh at the winguts, but if they're advocating overthrowing the government and making multiparty democracy illegal, it's plain treason now. They'll have the Garda investigating them as seditionist before they know it.

    The "no mobile phones for under 18s" does cause a wry smile though, it's utterly incongruous and daft among the sobering treason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    We have to know what these people are doing - there is no point putting our heads in the sand and hoping they go away - they won't.

    They may be fringe lunatics now, but the National Front in France started that way, as did Trump and his fanatics, as did the Brexit movement. This idea that JW, GOD and all the other nuts will just disappear if we ignore them is fantasy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Which is why I didn't say to ignore them. There's a wide gulf between keeping a watching brief on dangerous fascists, on the one hand, and actively spreading their poison and publicising them, on the other.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Tbh, it's pretty much impossible for Gemma to gain long term supporters because she always ends up falling out with everyone. She had a gang of 25 odd following her around last summer but she now calls them "plants"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    My sister just sent me the video on WhatsApp I asked her was it a deep fake, can't believe it's real. It must be a hard life been so parodied and delusional all the time, almost of feel sorry for them but then I remember how they hounded a Garda to he death



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    If you stop watching them they will change. Once they can see people are watching they will continue to make this rubbish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,045 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Its hilarious though. Watch this. Watch all of it. It getsmore mental with every passing second.


    Yes, (and Waters) want to be fascist leaders of Ireland.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    Showing or telling people what these two are saying is not actively spreading their poison or publicising them - it is all about context. You can share it without promoting them.

    You have to treat people as adults - if someone who has a certain small following, like GOD, is actively planning a coup, then that is something the wider public should know about and see with their own eyes. The effect of seeing these two sitting there, speaking into a camera actually advocating a fascist takeover of our country has an effect that you cannot get from someone just telling you about it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Yes. I'm all for depriving extremists the oxygen of social media, but I'd never call this thread as facilitating them either. Quite the opposite really, as seen by only the occasional visitor proclaiming kinship with their views.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,941 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,045 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,615 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    So fascism, then. As was obvious from day one only they're now admitting it.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Certainly not knowingly. Nobody ever realises they're the bad guy in their own story, so I'm presuming Waters & O'Doherty see themselves as mere patriots. Martyrs even (albeit without the messy need for self-sacrifice). O'Doherty I've just worried some form of paranoid, mental breakdown as explanation - it's Waters I'd be most intrigued about. He was always a contrarian - bit of a gobshíte TBH - but this dip into full-blown fascism is curious.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,615 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    When you head off the reservation into extremes, there's only one way to go. I'm old enough to remember the days of this lot moaning about being called fascists and that diluting the meaning of the word served nobody's interests. In that clip, he just comes across like a Ken doll for some sort of Nazi Barbie.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,494 ✭✭✭francois




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    That's the vid I quoted above. It is absolutely chilling, the relaxed way that they talk about a dictatorship. I think that watching the video makes my point; it is so much more bonkers and impactful when you actually see and hear two human beings uttering these words, rather than just reading them on a page.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,045 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    I don't think its chilling. I spat my tea out laughing. Shes a clown for our amusement.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    They remind me of that weird couple who appeared on the Late Late with Gaybo in the early 90s giving out about the Lovers Guide video, only ten times creepier.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,003 ✭✭✭randd1


    Mental cases, the pair of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    Equal parts hilarious and scary, pair of bona-fide nutcases.

    Scary part is some people actually believe and support them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,045 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    Unfortunately, that is not true.

    They certainly don't have a lot of support, but they do have some loyal minions and there are quite a few people out there who might sympathise with parts of their platform - anti-vaxxers, anti-immigrant campaigners, people in Achill and Ballinamore and other places who didn't want asylum seekers in their towns, fundamentalist Catholics, that disaffected part of the population that sees everyone else as a threat and see themselves as a victim. They appeal to the Trump-supporter mentality, and we know there are tens of millions of them in the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    That's priceless! From what the wife was saying, I'd say Brendan might need some pointers from the Lovers' Guide; it doesn't sound like they're lighting things up between the sheets. 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,045 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    She has failed at every turn when asked for public - real public - support. Dont confuse idiots on Twitter and Facebook with real life.

    When she was outside Google it was the same pathetic 6 or 7 cretins there every day. And this was when she was still on Twitter and had a voice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,537 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    to be fair she generally turns on anybody who does support her



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    I had a 4 page pamphlet dropped in my letterbox yesterday about all this nonsense. The Great Reset, NWO, secularism being evil, we must choose God etc...

    Had a walk around the area but couldn't find who'd dropped it in. Anyone else get this?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    Your area isn’t Nenagh by any chance? I can tell you who the person is there.

    He claims Disability Allowance (genuinely) yet calls the young people working in the Baristas spongers

    Believes the shite coming out of America and thinks the HSE is euthanising people. Calls Ireland and the EU communist.

    edit: you’ll find a lot of these people are on Disability Allowance. Vulnerable types



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