Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Labels and mantras are the only argument you have.

I guarantee all these “anti vax” people have actually taken 2 doses to protect other vulnerable people and are just sick to death of this farce of a situation the government and NPHET have put us in.

Christ, I think I'm a little dumber after reading that. That text peak, it hurts my eyes and brain in equal measure.

Honestly though, when dealing with a fully bonafide god botherer it's best to not take anything they say seriously.

“We will always have concerns about the winter because it can bring on new variants and it can bring on new viruses . It can pose significant challenges to the health service and that’s why planning is already underway for a winter initiative,” he added.

Mickey and the new viruses again

That's a collection of rabid tweets, some very clearly anti-vax. His death has been mentioned elsewhere.

Martin is talking about restrictions into the Spring. So when cases inevitably go through the roof in December-January, they are going to lift all restrictions in March-April. Pull the other one. We'll be in the exact same situation next year. They are not letting go, lads.

Jesus your post is full of crap, you dont know me and then try to tell me my friends are only virtual and i've never met them get a grip man.

I see you didn't answer any of my questions just go on the attack, I seem to have hit a nerve though, are you anti vax? is that the problem you think i'm trying to undermine your anti vax stance 🤣🤣.

I believe people should have a choice and I've made mine so i don't really mind what everyone else does but what i don't like is people shoving their choice down your neck calling you sheeple

This is what i'm not getting what are people disagreeing with me on? I said the governments messaging has been poor, talking about social distancing being here for the long term and the 11:30 closing even though the only ones allowed in the place are vaccinated.

This has lead to some of my friends who are anti vax latching onto to this as a sign the vaccines dont work and hardening their stance not to get the vaccine, which is having the opposite effect the government want.

First I was told here my friends are more than likely double vaccinated and I'm just trying to label people wanting restrictions lifted as anti vax, (I never mentioned restrictions in my post so it had nothing to do with that), I then posted the facebook post to ask does it sound like someone who is double vaxed just an example.

Not I'm being told i'm undermining credibility but I'm not sure of what exactly? anti vax?

It's the same with GP's, you'd swear this was an airborne flesh eating cousin of the Ebola virus the way they carry on.

So we are facing in to a possibility of being the most vaccinated and the most restricted country in Europe in reality!!

Do even the most ardent Government/NPHET supporters not begin to ask questions even then?

It wouldn't bother me if you posted the pro vaccine over the tops I'm down the middle on it, I'd probably agree with you, there is fanatics on both sides.

Your points there are very fair nothing wrong with waiting.

My original point was a cut at the government messaging being terrible in both their words and actions they have taken, completely undermining themselves, wasn't against people wanting restrictions lifted or people who dont want to get vaccinated. It just spiralled out from there with people taking their own interpretation of it and hitting off me.

The only way we are getting out of this is if people stop getting tested! Seriously...why on earth is a vaccinated person sending themselves to get tested!! Just stop and go on with life.

If cases go down and there's only a trickle going into hospital it looks better and we might get out of this **** show because it's all about the optics to those in charge.

The question, which has been asked, is whether plans are being made on, that NPHET modelling is the best decision maker. Now, nothing was ever going to change until the end of our vaccination programme so you can make sense of the first part of it. Otherwise, it's better to wait until the plan is actually published.