Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Yeah it's the indo but it's an interview with MM.

Restrictions until spring, even with everyone being vaccinated by the end of this month.

Well if this isn't f*cking depressing to read on a Friday morning. MM is a spineless coward.

I am generally grand with everything but f*ck me, where is the ambition or leadership?

If we can't ease up these restrictions within the month and a half, when can we 😔

It's always amazing how a week or two before any potential easing of restrictions Martin has to really dampen any expectations

He's also just waiting to get the line in about new variants

This roadmap will be the same long drawn out cautious BS as usual

No surprises there. They will more or less keep the current levels until Christmas and then think about easing. I expect strict limits on the numbers allowed at indoor events and WFH to continue past Christmas. The existing legislation will all be rolled over to February and the vaccine passport use will be extended to a number of other areas.

I was more surprised that some people thought all restrictions would be gone in a month or two. We are entering a new phase now whereby it's a public health are system crisis and they now have these "tools" available to ease pressure on hospitals.

Is the tracker app down for anyone else? Doesn’t seem to have updated since 17th

Alot of the social media posts seem to be from people claiming to be related, it's too early to say exactly what caused his death conclusively either way rip.

Alot of young people will be putting their vaccinations on hold till they hear more about it for sure.

Both are morally wrong in my view anyway. You don't use someone's death to push a viewpoint in either direction.

It seems more than clear that the story of the 23-year-old is being driven by anti-vaxxers.

The aunt who claims she's "just speaking up" is an anti-vaxxer. So of course she's going to go on a rant about it.

Which means none of the claims, not even the one about him getting the vaccine, can be trusted to be true.

I've a couple of problems with the above broadsheet link, No Janssen vaccines have been sent to GPs only pharmacies. Last delivery to pharmacies was almost a month ago now and Janssen has been pretty much non existent since early August for the most part

The "aunts" post about the "poison" makes her position fairly clear.

It's absolutely tragic losing a 23 year old to any cause of death and I feel for his family and friends. Last thing anyone needs at a time like this is the likes of social media diving on with speculation as to cause. If it was vaccine related it'll appear in the coroners report. RIP

On the one hand we have posters asking to respect the family so soon after death and a few posts later we've you suggesting in the infant hours of their grief they've made up lies and are using the death of a family member to try push an agenda? Christ

Thousands of people who've taken it, including myself, have felt quite sick afterwards. There's a 20 page thread of people talking about it in this very forum

"Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it".

The longer it goes unchallenged, the more it spreads.

Grief is no excuse for spreading dangerous disinformation. The aunt is an active anti-vaxxer, and was before this incident. I would be a lot more sympathetic if she was simply reacting out of shock, but she's using the death of her nephew as a talking point in her own personal agenda. It's despicable.

I'm not taking it as fact whatsoever. I do see it as plausible, but again, what do I know.

I think going on a public forum and suggesting grieving family members are making up lies to further an agenda is a bit far