Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

You think the ladies will turn Republican?

The collapse of South Vietnam didn't hurt America's relationship with its allies in both Europe and the Pacific. So I don't see how it's reasonable to believe that the fall of Kabul affects America's willingness to defend Poland or the Baltic states or any other European country that is in NATO in the event of Russian military aggression. Biden has never made a disparaging comment about NATO.

I think it is too early to tell. Certainly this year has seen an increase, but does the US have a better capacity to deal with the increase? Have they put in place the needed resources. Trump's policy failed, there is no doubt about that. He said he would stop it, said he would build a wall. Even as we came close to the 2020 election he was still saying it would get done.

So I don't think it unreasonable to see the longer term outcomes of the new policies.

But I think that the issue is not as big as it is made out. The US has plenty of capacity, and need, for these immigrants. Trump made it a big issue, but for the vast amount of Americans it isn't even a thing. Those living close to the border, of course, but are people in NY really worried about it? Trump did a great job in making it almost the No1 issue facing the US. Way more important than education, healthcare etc.

Time will tell. IT takes a long time to see progress in these very complex issues. Trump took the simple approach, simply lock the doors, but that doesn't deal witht he underlying issues and eventually the issue will resurface.

Newsbusters 😂

Well it stands to reason that if an average number is 14 then over 45 months there will have been numbers both higher and lower than that. What was the highest percentage over those 45 months? 15, 20 ,30 %. It doesn't really matter as the overall numbers are still at a 21 year high. If you're house is broken into by the same guy 4 times in a year would you consider it a single break in?

Not sure border crossings really compare very well with burglaries. The border is just trying to claim a minor issue is one of the biggest in the US.

Bidens policies on everything since coming to power has been if Trump put the plans in place it must be cancelled be it the southern border Afghanistan the gas pipeline etc. Very petty by the Biden administration

I'd say Kamela has been told by party strategists to keep well away from commenting on Afghanistan as it would tarnish her image and any hope of becoming the next president

Which policies?

People in US are disgusted on both sides of the political line. and you think what Biden did took "courage". the true meaning of courage includes mental and moral strength to face fear in the event of adversity. He certainly was not facing adversity and is not showing mental or moral strength. Quite the opposite. It was arrogance and apathy towards the effects of the decision, and it was certainly self interested. Courage is what the afghanistans will need now. It will certainly not be a non-issue for elections - it will be front line and center of opposition political campaigns in the future. and as far as this event fading into the background - social media and media will see that it doesnt. I certainly will not forget the sight of babies being handed to soldiers over barbed wires and I'm sure most people won't either. Its our responsibility in the "west" to remember this. and for those who choose to forget...sure being in a bubble may be nice but its not reality.

People in the EU cant read that article

I think it'll be somewhere in between, but nearer the former.

Thats par for the course, the level of disengenuouness from those posters is stratospheric.

Its beyond a joke at this stage.

Good analysis by Andrew Neill last night.

He said its the biggest setback for American Foreign policy since the second world war.

So Biden actually continued and completed a Trump policy.

I know the world looks on in horror at what is happening but do americans? They have a history of this after all (Vietnam).

I just wonder will the line "I ended our involvement and brought our boys home" be stronger than anyone complaining about it.

First time I have paid attention to American politics since trumps demise, Biden is no craic.

In fairness to the US - 20 years on and the afghans made no attempt to save themselves. Reality is its on a nations people to dictate the path of said nation.

Not the people where I am in the US, sure, there are some, but by no means universal disgust such as you suggest.

Afghanistan got less than an hours coverage across a number of News channels, over the past 5 years, this will be long forgotten by the midterms. Sad and all as that is for the Afghans.

And any conservative who wants it to remain in the news will only be drawing attention to the fact that the Trump admin released the current leader of the Taliban, negotiated with them to allow this withdrawal to happen and blamed Biden for not withdrawing sooner.

I hope the whole experience will be remembered in the sense that next time US military representatives and weapons industry lobbyists are advocating for the US to attack somewhere else that they will be told that that has been proven repeatedly to not be the solution. Let the US cut it's bloated military budget and put that money towards making health and education more affordable.