The Irish protocol.

Disingenuous. All parties agreed prior to the referendum that its results should be implemented. So yes it was advisory but all sides ageeed to accept the advice.

From your same source This is a strange stat for a non-sectarian organisation. Even stranger given that they were based in very predominantly catholic areas 🤔

IRA killings

790 Protestants v 338 catholics.

I have no idea of the accuracy of these figures but you seem happy with them.

seems this demonstrates your hero’s were deeply sectarian after all

It was very clear throughout that all sides would abide by the result. Here is confirmation that all labour MPs felt the result should be abided by. I am surprised you are questioning this.

http://camdennewjournal.com/article/keir-we-must-abide-by-results-of-brexit-referendum

You guys are so wrong on most stuff that you hang on every word of mine to try and find tiny wins. Misrepresenting what I say is not winning. This feels a bit like the Nolan show. He does exactly this Someone says something and he gives it a subtle twist or takes their words out of context to create mismeaning.

anyhow back to your games. and let me try to speak slowly for you

1) it was ‘legitimate’ for our government to decide to hold a referendum on brexit but decide they would not hold one on the NIP. I am not a big supporter of referenda full stop. I think that is what we elect politicians for but when a referendum is held it would be folly for MPs to say ‘we don’t like the answer so we will ignore it’. The thing that I would be warmest to a referendum on is a UI, because I really don’t see another way

2) I am not a legal expert, but the ‘legality’ of NIP will be further challenged. IMHO it is in contradiction to gfa - does that make it illegal - I don’t know. But the legality doesn’t really matter, that is not what will change it

3) ‘done up like a kipper’. I had clearly and magnanimously accepted I was wrong about IRA killings, as I had accepted that the poster was poster stats he understood. I asked for a little more background on their makeup and he has run a mile. On that basis i am legitimately suspending that admission until someone can produce or I can find a breakdown

4) the funniest bit of all is that the poster posted the link to challenge my statement that the IRA were highly sectarian and ,LOL, his link demonstrates that they were a sectarian killing machine. I had known the extent they targeted Protestant towns and businesses, but I had not been fully aware of the level of their murdering of Protestants, given they were based in very catholic areas so ‘mistakes’ would inevitably kill catholics.

but hey, if you call that done up like a kipper then I hope to get done up like a kipper today again 😂

It’s very simple.

it is clearly a fairly close call as to whether the IRA killed more civilians or British security forces. So yes I could be swayed either way by solid facts - which no one seems to have on here atm.

I asked a simple question as to what was included in the posters stats. He seems to not know. eg is our local police service, prison officers, retired and present, being regarded as British security forces. If they are then it is strange from a poster that tells us we are all Irish and def not British.

but as I say, I smell a rat. A simple clarification of who the stat includes would be good.

there is no similar confusion in his stats about whether the IRA are sectarian. The numbers are so overwhelming that no tweaking will put their sectarianism in doubt.

does that help you?

That’s nonsense. It’s up to the person providing the data to tell us how the data is made up. Otherwise I could tell you that 70% of catholics and only 20% of Protestants are sectarian and say if you don’t believe go and research it. We have reached crazy point here now