Don't buy in a new estate

In ye olden days, they were separated though, entirely. Putting social housing in poorer areas is frustrating, and annoying on the decent residents, but in the grand scheme of things, it keeps the property market, and the citizens, working, as they have something to aspire to.

I have a job at the moment, however, if i lose my job, before i get a house, I'll not be re-joining the workforce. Why would I? People seem to post such absolute sh/te on here ('loueze' and 'one eyed jack' in particular). I grew up in social housing. My family members are in social housing, im still in a social housing estate, i have extensive experience of it and the people who are in it. The idea of 10% social housing in private estates existed to prevent the build of 100% Social housing estates as they almost always turn into sh/tholes, and 10% was fine... but when that 10% is now turning to nearly 50% (and more in many cases), and it includes premium, sought-after developments, then things have gone too far in the wrong direction.

It's not snobbery, it's wanting to live in a nice place where your neighbour isnt burning rubbish in his back garden every week, and who works as a mechanic out of his front garden.

Omg, my neighbour did this today!

I had to take the washing in off the line, fuming! I

I hope he was burning the chicken coop he has in the garden, complete with chickens and early rising rooster.

in his private owned house.

Well the thing about that is, and I know that people on here generally don't like the idea of being able to buy council houses, but I think it's brilliant, and it's geared at exactly what your parents used it for. In poorer/rougher areas it can help clean them up a bit if people start taking pride in their houses/estate, and in all areas (good or bad) it can be used as a stepping stone to help your family (or you as an individual) better yourself.

To buy a council house, you have to have an income from employment, and you also have to have no complaints against you (for anti social behaviour, for example) and you also need to be up to date on your rent owed to the council. Those rules ensure that it's only the decent, working people, that keep their head down, take pride in their area, pay their bills etc. can take that step upwards. It gives people, who want to better themselves, a real stepping stone towards acquiring an expensive asset that can then be manipulated to better their lives as a whole. I've no issue with that whatsoever.

That said, your google maps link is mad. I've looked into social housing and estate design layout a lot and never seen anything like that. I wonder was it widely used (I admit, most of my "environmental design" (to use a fancy term) has been around the estates that have problems, and how poor design can feed into those problems (rather than how estates were separated).

Well you for one, keep that idea going.

along with your calling them 'the bottom of the barrell'

And filthy scumbags.

No, I've lived and stayed in various areas. Private and social. Never seen those issues in private estates. The odd late parties, neighbours having arguments, perhaps, but never any actual anti social behaivour, except from social houses within private estates. I do know a chap that lives next door to a private house, and they have scrambler bikes, and he only knows they have them because they get loaded onto a trailer every few weeks and disappear for a while. Never used in the estate.

Well if you actually believe that there is no anti-social behaviour carried out by private owners in private estates, then god bless your naivety, that's all I can say.

Some in social housing are unwell and unable to work but do not do crime and keep homes nice.

some of the people who have large home are white collar criminals who do not pay taxes and engage in other white collar crimes. They could be involved in the import of drugs destined for poor areas . Some use their nepotism /influence to see any of the lazy ones would not get work even if they wanted it. They keep the jobs in their own circle. Many genuine people from poor areas are discriminated by addres The nurses will see their own daugter nurses get into the hospital. I have seen that several times.

The people who do not want to live beside social say social people should get education/jobs and improve their lives /buy their homes. Maybe they who hate the poor should get more education and better jobs so they could live in places like Dalkey or in stand alone houses in the country. The People in places like Dalkey probably wouldn't want someone who could scrape to afford a 700 k house living near them.

If they are not happy near social then get a better job

I don't believe either grew up there though did they? Or engaged in anti social behavior