All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship (Liam McCarthy Cup) 2021

I never said anything about being afraid. Stop moving the goalposts.

All im saying is that people who think Tipp would have given Limerick a game have no proper basis to go on from previous games.

I was actually more having pop at limerick about 2019 results as Kiely got it badly wrong about what to do that year but the KK result in semi changed it all.

Cork didnt even try to get dirty, i dont care when your getting bet like that id rather see my team get angry and physical, at least get a few yellows or something. Few flicks to the helmets ala hegarty was needed in my opinion. Lads need to put their bodies on the line, other teams would not have lied down as much as cork yesterday.

Back in the day when goals were worth 5 points was the last time a team had a higher scoring total in the final.

Cork in 1894 (45 points total) 5-20 to Dublin’s 2-00

Absolutely... That's why 2019 still sticks in their craw (limerick) as they were easily the best team in the country that year. That's why I think they would have preferred KK in this years final

You are entitled to your opinion but in my opinion the last thing that cost Cork yesterday was arrogance. They were clearly very nervous in my opinion with some very skillful young Cork hurlers unable to perform basic skills on the day. If you ignore the noisy 1%, 90%+ of Cork supporters thought we were up against it in advance of yesterday - but most of us thought we would turn up and thus thought the match would be a helluva lot closer (and, yes, that we might even nick it if the stars alligned).

Let's be honest they showed who the better team was in the Munster final... they messed up against Kilkenny but were easily the top team in the country. Of course that wasn't Tipps fault and fair play to them for taking full advantage.

Yep. Limerick were beaten in a knockout game by a fairly average KK side. Not exactly the form of "easily the best team in the country", because of course they weren't.

Agree with those who question the narrative around Limerick in 2019. They were beaten 3 times. At best, at very best, they were denied a 65, from an angle, to get to extra time in a semi. Had they scored that 65, had there not been any more points, had they then won in ET, they then would had to have played a Tipp team in the final who were clearly capable of beating them.

In the sense that they lost a semi by a point, and didn't even get to extra time, strictly speaking they were further from winning the All Ireland than Cork in 2018 (who got to ET in a semi) and KK this year (who were beaten once, not three times remember).

Not denying that at their best Limerick would have beaten everyone else in 2019, but they didn't perform at their best 3 separate times so no hard luck there. The only thing that separates their 1 point loss from any other such loss is that the controversial decision came at the very end. But there are such controversies over 70 minutes in every match and I suspect KK can point to some wrong calls earlier in that match which in turn cost them a point or points.

None of which takes away from the present Limerick team who are deservedly 3 time champions - but not (well yet!) 4 in a row winners or entitled to claim to be....

Cork were nowhere near the best team in 2010 though.... Listen I'm not having a go at Tipp at all, as I said they took full advantage of the situation and fair play to them but Limerick will know they left that one behind them.

There's absolutely no chance of a Tipp team not trying in a munster final... anyway I've said enough on this now.

To sum up: if my aunty had balls, she'd be my uncle...

Something very similar from yesterday's match programme:

I didn't say that limerick didn't care about the Munster final.... I only said they had the safety net of a quarter final if they didn't make it... Jesus take it easy... stop taking things so personally.

I was evaluating this Limerick team vs the 4-in-a-row Kilkenny team, and its the width of a cigarette paper between them.

GK: Quaid unquestionably better than any of the KK incumbents, and up there with Damien Fitzhenry as the best of the modern era.

Full back line: Sean Finn and Jackie Tyrrell are peerless at 2 and 4. Hickey and afterwards Delaney were strong full backs, but Dan Morrissey is in the same mould as JJ in terms of dropping back seamlessly. Probably go with Hickey as an out and out full-back.

Half back line: so competitive. For me, Tommy and JJ are two of the best hurlers I have ever seen so have the wing back positions locked in. Would go with Byrnes at 6, he is quietly becoming the highest scoring defender in history and is possibly under-rated.

Midfield: Michael Fennelly and Cian Lynch. Combining guile, trickery and consistency.

Half forward line: Tom Morrissey, Henry Shefflin, Eoin Larkin. Larkin was the ultimate team player, although Hegarty fills the role well too. Morrissey has to be one of the most consistent scorers from half-forward in modern history, and Henry is Henry.

Full forward line: Eddie Brennan, Seamus Flanagan, Aaron Gillane. Brennan's goal-scoring record in big games puts him in, Flanagan is the best full-forward in the modern game, and Gillane is a freak.

Clare in 2013 had very strong teams challenging for the All Ireland at the time. Outside of Limerick having a ridiculous team everyone else seems to be either building or winding down. I don't think anyone outside Limerick would claim to have a vintage county team right now

It was in retaliation for Downey's pull on Lynch, the microphone picks it up. TBH it was no better than Gillane's pull on Barrett in the Munster final.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qa6vahCnhI - 1:07 there.

Didn't look nor sound like an accident tbh. I actually think lynchs response was to that as well and he just thought Tim O'Mahoney did it. Again amazing how the narrative can be changed to suit yer own agenda!