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Tough one here at the minute a family member has been diagnosed with The Big C here in the last few weeks. They havent taken the vaccine themselves yet but will be taking it sooner rather than later, i was told to consider getting it ASAP hard to get the head around it all.

The big C is not always fatal. Treatments have advanced, and so have medications to deal with side effects. Think positive and be supportive.

Local chap in 50’s in ICU ventilated, family saying just a few days poor soul.

his son is devastated as he brought covid home from a stag and the father caught it from him. Family has been very careful as he has underlying condition

He is.

Aye thats the biggest fear here now too, especially coming into the winter with more socialising indoors etc.

What underlying condition ?

There'll be a lot of similar cases from now on,

People are mixing more now and taking less precautions,

As reflected in the figures we are now at a higher risk of being infected than in teh last 18mths

Apparentley you're infectious two days before you show symptoms

Transplant patient is slightly more than having an underlying condition in my opinion.

To me that phrase would mean blood pressure ,slight heart problems or perhaps type 2 diabetes .

Local enough person died here this year of covid according to local paper .Younger than the person mentioned above .Usual stuff of how it could happen to anyone etc etc .What no one seemed to mention was that they were in the final stages of cancer.

It is perhaps me but at this stage have still to know of even one person who has died of covid that would have lived for even another year or two .

Any I am aware of were either elderly long term residental care pstients or terminally ill .

OH works in hospital.

they’ve had many patients die who should have had many many years of life left, how many is enough for you to consider a person worthwhile?? Is it 2 or 5 or 10, if it were your parent or sister would that change how you feel ??

I suppose the question is are you suggesting that transplant recipients don’t matter ?? Sister in law is one, I feel they are perhaps in worse position now than before as with delta circulation it’s more transmissible, and with it even fully vaccinated they are at significant risk.

don’t want to say much about the person I commented on other than he would have been expected to have a long life ahead of him, but covid seems to have cut that short.

The I’d be ashamed to be in hospital if I wasn’t vaccinated is interesting …..there’s a big risk now from people who are vaccinated that just carry on as normal ditch the precautions etc these people are a huge risk both to compromised people health wise and those who for whatever reason aren’t nor will be vaccinated

this segregating and looking down on people who aren’t vaccinated for whatever personal reason is a bug bear of mine the govt and nephet are driving it ,a 2 tier society .I’ve no time for the hard core anti vaxers throwing all sort of stuff out there ,giving hotels ,guards etc grief …the lack of a role out of antigen testing by now is a disgrace ,I know a guy who was in Germany 2 weeks a go …they can be got for 2 euros ,u get a result if negative u have your pass for x time and off I go knowing your not shedding Covid ….a fully vaxed person out and about can and will shed it unknowingly

As you said earlier that acroos the world people are living with the virus and carying on as normal, i see that as being no problem.

Todays paper claims that covid patients are hogging ICU beds for up to thirty days, surely we should be doing everything we can to avoid that and let the hospitals finally treat those on waiting lists.

Again I say I don't care what anyone does as long as they don't clog up hospitals or funeral homes

Well perhaps I might have phrased it better but the point still stands .Things like saying a person has an "underlying condition" is a real catch all and at times gives the impression that they were in the whole of their health while the reality could be very different .Have obv. no idea re the case you mention .

I have two siblings and an in law working in hospitals .All with 20 years plus done and yes they are medical staff not admin. etc.Have heard no mention from them of otherwise healthy people succumbing to covid .

And yes have a parent with an "underlying condition ".Aged 80 ,had a quadruple bypass about 10 years ago ,had multiple stints inserted since ,has type 2 diabetes for a long number of years ,MRSA ,a predisposition to severe kidney infections every 3/4 months which necessitate hospital stay along with gereatric dementia .Oh and suffers from leg ulcers big time .And had a minor cancer scare many years ago . That enough ?

Edited as I had actually forgotten about their hip replacement a few years ago and although the heart consultant has eventually given the go ahead for them to get their other hip done they have decided not to bother .

We feel that a certain quality of life is essential for them so since March 2020 we have never once stopped visiting them (they live with one sibling and their family at home ).Easy enough for most of us as we have built here at home but a couple of siblings live 60/80 miles away .We have never stopped anyone of their friends/neighbours calling in at any stage ,masks optional .

They got covid allright but in hospital .Last November I think from memory .Tested negative on admission and then a patient tested positive in the ward a few days later .Tested negative again but positive before discharge so had to go to stepdown facility for 2 weeks .That was from Infection Control as they said no going home until "danger " had passed .

That was no life for anyone ;alone in a room with one visitor allowed a day to talk (shout) to them through a closed window .Staff telling us to wear a mask standing outside in the rain whilst shouting through a window to an elderly person who was confused enough without all that .

So at this stage have enough of this "another two weeks ;protect the health service ;anyone and everyone is at risk etc etc etc " sh1te .

Attended a funeral last year where the husband sat in the car in the graveyard at his wife's burial .He couldn't even go to the church as a person at the wake/house was covid positive .That sort of stuff is very hard to defend so forgive me if I think its time to move on .Any person who thinks like that is an appropiate response has bigger issues like a complete lack of empathy in my view .

At this stage the only impact this has on me/my family is shoving on a mask when going into the supermarket/bank etc .Couldn't tell you the last time I used those hand sanitisers at this stage .Our local pub has stools back at bar ,no looking for covid passport ,taking details ,no masks etc ,basically back to February 2020 conditions .

Maybe all that is selfish but from what I see and read people seems to think its everyone's else's job to protect them .How about a little bit of look after yourself if you feel in danger .

We as a family would not under any circumstances subject our parent to a life of being locked away like a prisoner in their last few years with us.

I understand everyone has a different perspective on life but thats ours and its not for changing .Better 2 or 3 years of a somewhat normal existance for them than an extra year or two living like a recluse

I got the second jab of moderna yesterday. Fine going to bed, woke up at 2.30 am sweating, shivering and pains in all my joints. Had enough energy to milk and that was literally it. Sleeping all day, I hope I'm better tomorrow because I have a heap of baling to do.

You can’t smoke indoors fair point but u don’t end up excluded as currently you are if unvaccinated .u carry on as normal once your done smoking u can go back indoors carry on as normal with everyone else ….antigen testing could and should be in place by now as is across a lot of Europe ….if your positive then yes you have no place in doors or mixing with others …vaccinated people can and will get and transmit any half reasonable person that would test positive would isolate and restrict movement etc ….some won’t granted and not making excuses for them

but after 1.5 years of mixed messages ,double standards ,power trips etc etc from govt and nephet people are fed up

anyway looks like the segregation will be done in a month hopefully an antigen testing programme is in place along side the vacines ….on the boosters outside of vulnerable people and healthcare vacines should be redirected to countries that havnt been as fortunate as us as regards access to them

There's nothing to back up any of what you're saying.

Vaccinated peoe are getting and passing on covid in significant numbers.

Life insurance is all about risk. The risk of covid killing anyone but the elderly is so low that there's not going to be any measurable difference in risk for 85% of the population under 65.

It's everyone for themselves now, no point in being vaccinated if restrictions still apply

Has it been shown that the large amount of spread is in the vaccinated?

it reduces the chances of you getting covid and reduces transmission to others if you do get it

it makes you less likely to be very sick so your less likely to use scarce resources in a hospital

Why not?

For the same reason i don't fully understand lots of subjects i haven't studied i suppose. I get taking vaccine helps person taking it if they come in contact with virus, but cant see why vaccinated would transmit less virus ( which cant be killed ) than unvaccinated if both had virus in their system

Is it really 10 times our rate?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-death-rate-in-northern-ireland-10-times-that-of-republic-1.4655131