The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

Nail on the head Blaaz.

O'Bradaigh apparently is a part of this conspiracy to rewrite history. He was at it 50 years ago, two authors wrote a book as part of this conspiracy too. Wikpedia are in on it. Dev was in on it too in 1947.

But not Leo and Michael when the power swap were under pressure and the SHinners were knocking on the gates, no sir, couldn't happen. 😁

My post was pretty clear. If you don't know what the citation was referencing as a source thats ok. I think ill take Brendan's advice on board and stay out of the rabbit hole.

Here is the claim YOU made that you were asked to back up. YOU stiil haven't done that.

You have been asked to give an example on all other social media of this campaign. As usual you have failed to do that. You have also been asked by others to back up the bizarre claim you make that they 'no longer want to be linked to the north' even though last week the usual crew were in lather of outrage because SF were 'glorifying' what happened in the north.

The fact remains again the only evidence of a 'campaign' we have is the one referenced in the RTE article where Micheál allied with Varadkar to dismiss SF's roots.

im using it as a example of your ridicules claims , considering the harm sf are doing your assertions of moral superiority are as hollow as your argument

using the death of innocents for political gain is a well established sf party political tactic

you want to use a convicted criminal and dissident terrorist as your source too ?

i suppose it does match up with your history of supporting those causes to date ,

'using the death of innocents'?

This very forum sees a selective list used for political gain all the time and it's use is often noted by me and others. That list:

Jean McConville,

Jerry McCabe

The Warrington boys,

Kingsmill

Mairia Cahill

etc etc.

That list has one distinguishing feature, I wonder can you work out what that is?

FF and FG will not be able to lie about going into coalition next time out. The public will not buy that and it remains to be seen how attractive another FF/FG coalition will be to the public.

I.E. what happens to their core votes if they say they will coalesce. I suspect if FF say it, their core vote will have had enough, so where will that vote find a home?

A fascinating next GE no doubt. The power swap dropping below 40% of the vote. Oh for the heady days of 86%.

Wilfully missing the point or spectacularly missing it?

The point was made to the person talking about people 'using the deaths of innocents' to point out that there are a cohort on this very site who use a selective list of victims ALL the time. I also posted some of those victims names and asked could he spot a distinguishing feature of the list.

Selective use of victims by any side to score political points is disgusting, perverse and wrong. ANY side.

At least you don't pretend what you are doing.

The point of using them is to get a point against the Shinners.

I'll stick to my view that every single death was a tragedy and wrong.

What crime have SF committed in relation to Paul Quinn?

the paul quinn investigation is still ongoing so you should be careful what you say here , some people may still be getting arrested for withholding information etc

and my point was that sf dont like to hear the names of the victims of their activity's , that is very clear in spite of you guys trying to distort every one else posts

wasnt me who posted a list , you ll have to look to your own for that ,

i ve said many times all the victims should have justice , but sf are standing in the way of justice for some arent they ?

So no link to the PSNI saying SF need to do anything.

Thanks for clearing that one up.

SF are the only ones along with the IRA who will take part in a Truth Recovery process, the IRA having taken part in the ICLVR process to recover the Disappeared, their participation in the ICLVR has praised.

I have no reason to believe that they will do what they say in a Truth recovery process.

There are only two of the combatants standing in the way of that process getting under way, the British and Unionism/Loyalism. The Irish government is currently mute on the legacy issues they committed to dealing with by establishing a legacy framework along wth the British government under the GFA and it ancillary agreements.

Go figure.

would a grieving other do you or are you insisting on a official statement ?

 Breege Quinn repeated her call for him to resign as Minister for Finance at Stormont.[15] She said he "should finish off and get justice" for the Quinn family.[15] She said he should "go and tell the PSNI and the Gardaí exactly who he was speaking to" in the IRA after the murder.[15] She said she would not meet Conor Murphy until he "comes out publicly saying that he is going to the PSNI to give the names of the IRA that he spoke to in Cullyhanna".

Murder of Paul Quinn - Wikipedia

I have posted the link to the ICLVR statement on the process several times. Find it and read it. It was part of the reason I decided to give SF a vote as it was clear they and the IRA had committed to the GFA.

I didnt have my fingers crossed behind my back when I voted for that agreement.

If SF entered the democratic fold, and the IRA disarmed then I accept them as democrats like any other.

There are a few bodies that have simply been unable to find. If you knew the area around me 'The Bragan' you might understand.

People have been lost on the Bragan for hours. It has one of the densest networks of roads in Europe. I have to know where I am going or risk getting lost. I fully understand the difficulty of pinpointing areas you only seen in the dark of night 40 years ago.

What 'criminals' are in SF's midst? The IRA have been clear and unequivocal since the GFA, they will not be handing over anybody until there is an open and transparent Truth recovery process involving all the combatants and players.

I fully agree with that stance and understand why it was taken. There was nothing nice about the conflict and there will be nothing nice about the legacy process either.