Dublin Bus tables conditional pay offer of 12%

For a 6am start, I'd have to leave the house at 10pm the previous evening because there's no bus operating at that early hour to get me into work.

For a 6pm finish, it would probably take about 2.5 hours to get home after multiple buses drive past me full to the brim due to missing drivers and piss poor scheduling

Next question please, but this time maybe try not to tug on the heartstrings of people who haven't been paid for breaks or travelling to/from work for the last 40 years.

I, for one, am shocked to my core by this turn of events

Oh wait, no I'm not

Absolutely nothing at all wrong with the shift length. Don't like it, quit

Here's where your arguments fall down.

Not one single member of the travelling public gives a toss about the drivers, their shift length, their break times, their pay, their conditions, what company they work for etc etc etc

When it comes to the buses they only things they are concerned with are that the buses are

• Running on time
• At a high frequency
• For as many hours as possible
• On a consistent basis

The rest is utterly irrelevant.

Now, as for your obsession with your 12 hour shifts, I did those myself for 11 years in a previous job. They suited me fine until they didn't at which point I changed jobs, simple. My commute was 45 mins each way (not sure why that matters).

The problem with drivers is they believe DB is run for their benefit only. They fail to realise that they are there to serve the city and the public. Instead they prefer to use the public as a pawn.

I won't feel one iota of pity when DB loses a raft of routes and a load of drivers are given their pink slips. They will have sealed their own fates by their own intransigence

Absolute horseplop. Are you trying to claim that only DB drivers are allowed to comment on the state of the service provided? They're only called bogies because they're dodgier shifts than the other ones and the drivers have for years been getting away with foisting the "bogey" shifts onto the newer lads. Like a frat house or a borstal or prison of some description. In the real world, those are called split shifts and are rife across plenty of industries and career paths.....chefs, postal workers etc.

The senior drivers have been shafting the newbies for decades. Now that everyone is suddenly on a level playing field, everyone's up in arms all of a sudden because they have to share the load, after they've already served their time marking in........i.e. throwing their toys out of the pram because they thought their time on easy street was coming to an end. Zero sympathy for anyone with that attitude.

For the record, I'd make it to any of the Northside Depots within about 15 mins at 6am. If I was stationed in Clontarf, I'd also be able to make it home at 6pm in a similar time. No idea what difference that makes to the argument that the level of service being provided to the public is falling short of what should be expected in a major European capital city. It also means that I'd be sitting at home for 3.5hrs of that 4hr break in the middle. I already spend triple that commuting to the city centre, quadruple when the sh1tebags on the 123 route hang around at the terminus and then leave at the same time, so I've no idea what your point is?

Your earlier post speaks volumes, you're already planning on no-showing for a new policy that hasn't even been implemented.

"If the new rosters have all drivers doing bogies expect many,many bogies to not be running, hardly a improvement to the service now is it."

Translation: "Fcuk the public, fcuk the employer, fcuk everyone except me......I don't want to do the job I'm being paid to do, so the rest of you can swivel on it."