What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

For every person complaining about immigrants and wanting Ireland to go back in to the past in terms of isolation and non-integration, there are many many more who are welcoming and appreciative of others.

That's not exactly difficult when most of us were raised in a religion that pushed guilt on to us (original sin), and while the religion is diminishing in influence, the same methods of guilt are pushed by the State and the media. Just like you have done by attempting an emotional guilt trip towards anyone who is critical of immigration.

We also have a political elite and RTE who are very selective in how they present viewpoints, being extremely pro-multiculturalism/immigration, while avoiding any negative considerations. There are very few articles or viewpoints within politics or the media that seek to shed any light on the costs to the state, or the implications for normal people.

I'm sure you know this, but it's worth saying anyway. People (both on boards and elsewhere) can be critical of immigration while also being welcoming/appreciative of the immigrants who contribute positively to society.

Oh... and who has been wanting Ireland to go back to isolation? Or is that an empty claim just for dramatic effect?

That's quite a few maybes to put in a sentence...

I know that my viewpoint is in the minority... and perhaps I should have been more obvious in what I posted previously. I did point out the lack of critical examination by the politicians and media about immigration having an impact on the awareness of the Irish people. It's easy to shape the national consensus when you're limiting the information that is made commonly available to them. The minority would be those who actively seek out information on the topic...

Political elite seems conspiratorial to you? You seem to have a very different understanding of what/who the elites are in any given society. All societies have them, and politicians tend to end up there, due to the influence and ability to push policy to benefit themselves.

Dunno why you're dropping the election of the same parties as if it's some point I made.. since I didn't. That's all your input there.

What the hell are you on about? No, seriously. Second post in a row, where you're referring to crap I haven't written.

I used the term the political elite, yes. And you've just agreed who the political elite in Ireland are. How does any of that relate to your "Unless you are making claims our government is chosen some other way Klaz?" Did I post anything about how our politicians are elected? Does the term political elite suggest that they gain their positions in some other way?

Actually, Robbie, I called them both... and I've used the term politician far more times. I've used the term political elite a few times previously, because I do consider politicians like the Berties, the charlie haughey's, etc to be an elite in Ireland.

You do have a habit of nitpicking as opposed to dealing with the content of the post itself. Like your desire to nitpick over a definition of elite, or the desire to wrangle over my use of the term political elite, rather than deal with the overall post you took it from.

As for the politicians, I can refer to them whatever way I like... one that carries the meaning to the reader. ie, politician.