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Blindboy cancels himself.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    He'll be on Turgidy, all teary eyed and remorseful. Blaming everyone but himself on how he was oppressed and picked on because of his mental health.

    He's a fu5king asshole who should be permanently cancelled.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No I'm not one for criticism for the sake of criticism, nor do I go down the road of using abusive language (he shouldn't be cancelled!) but I simply dislike the Blindboy character. It's so much that I just have no time for. And that's OK. People can dislike public figures without being horrible human beings. Some of the posts decrying the criticism of him are as personal and angry as those they object to.

    His views - I'd probably share a number of them, but he does seem self righteous and self important. He does seem to want to play to the crowd. He's not rebellious or outspoken. His views are popular. They would have been anti establishment once but they're the standard now. And his podcast being popular? Well Love Island is popular. Popular doesn't always equate to quality.

    There are obviously far, far worse people than him though, and he's not harmful or dangerous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Where did the other lad Mr Chrome go?

    The rubberbandits fb/insta/twitter is just BB shilling for years



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    'His views are popular'

    Looking at this thread you wouldn't think so!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,274 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Good question, are they still officially together as the Rubberbandits?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,039 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    The views on Boards.ie rarely mirror the “real world”, if they did we’d have Peter Casey for President.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well if there was a thread about Love Island here, the majority would likely slate that too, but L.I. is still hugely popular.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    In the last post you said your dislike him because he profits from discussing mental health (see below) but in the post above you say you've no problem with making money or chsmpioning causes. Which I think demonstrates the point I made above about Boards posters dispising a man who speaks about men's mental health, pretty precisely. Even people who will say they're fine with promoting mental health in principle, will dispise the man who does it in practice.

    You used the fact that he might profit from discussing mental health as the reason you dislike hi, but contradicted that reason in the very next post. The reason these men will give for disliking a man who discusses mental health doesn't really matter, as you demonstrated above.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I Knew that spastic was an insult but I didn't know it was a purley physical condition to do with muscle contractions. I used retard and spastic interchangeably as a young lad and I presumed they were both to do with intellectual disabilities.

    You might have had a good grasp of the distinction between the meanings of retard and spastic, as a child, but I certainly didn't.

    First time I googled the term spasticity was when I heard a politician use it on the news talking about his own son's condition. I was surprised because it never occurred to me that spastic was a medical term. It would be a bit like finding out that fag is a technical term. We threw that term around in my childhood, without any concern for who it might have hurt too.

    Isn't that the funny thing about this thread? Doing wrong is fine, bit admitting to have don't wrong and being sorry about it, is the problem. Now that's interesting.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think he's a prosthetics artist in TV and film.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I listen to his podcast sometimes. I find it generally entertaining, but he doesn't half talk a load of misinformed nonsense. Like, anytime his rants stray into a topic I have a strong understanding of it tends to be mostly wrong. It makes me question the topics he covers that I don't know much about...



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No.

    Lying is wrong.

    He wasn't a child when the song was released. He was a grown man with a good vocabulary. He knew what it meant.

    He should have admitted he didn't give a **** because it was ok to use the word spastic as a joke back in the day.

    Doing wrong is fine. Using a poxy excuse for your wrongdoing instead of owning it isn't.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    Exactly what 'the dunne' said there, he wasn't a child when he wrote the song, he was in his mid twenties. All he had to do was own his own work and admit to it. Feigning excuses that he didn't know what he clearly did know, and then also blaming other members of his own community and locality that he now obviously feigningly 'champions' from time to time, just shows this person to be utterly false and totally disingenuous. Just like a modern politician. I used to listen to this guys podcast, was always interested on his take on the psychogeography and historical aspects of his locality and community, his views on music and artistic culture, but I quickly lost interest as soon as he brought in this new fandangled take on adding trendy righteous social justice aspects to nearly everything he was talking about. I could smell the angle straight away and I left it. Which was a shame because as I've said, the genuine things he was talking about, the psychogeography stories of Limerick and Irish history was very interesting and entertaining.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Yeah I find thst an interesting approach - the "doing wrong is fine but..." approach.

    Shows the appeal of someone like Donald trump. Some people prefer when someone never admits fault or backs down. You suggest you'd prefer if he "owned it", bit I doubt it. I think he committed the sin of admitting he thinks he was wrong. Like the men who talk about mental health, grand in principle but the ones who actually do it in practice are ridiculed and dispised. The reasons for ridiculing and despising them arent important and like the poster above demonstrated, they arent even consistent



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    Show me exactly where I ridiculed and despised anybody up in my post there Duderino

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 BringBackDav


    Blindboy is what stupid people think a smart person sounds like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    It's HOW he admitted he was wrong. If he came out and said: "Look, I said some stupid sh*t, years ago. I thought it was funny but it's not and I shouldn't have said it" it would be a lot more credible and acceptable to most people than this nonsense of trying to claim he didn't know what it meant or what he was saying.

    I'm looking forward to the apologies for all the other sh*t he said now!

    We all knew the woke left would eat itself, it's interesting seeing it in action.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What the **** are you talking about?

    Doing wrong is fine. People make mistakes. People's opinions change.

    What is unacceptable is lying to cover up those mistakes rather than owning up to them.

    He didn't admit he was wrong, he said he didn't know it was wrong. That was a lie.

    And as for alluding that I despise or ridicule people for talking about mental health, you are talking out of your arse. I'm a huge mental health advocate. I do get irked when people use mental health as a get-out-of-jail-free card.

    As usual, you are wildly wide of the mark with your assumptions.



  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What happened to the modernist motion of art as an escape from the ugliness of the world (inc. everyday politics), a fantasy space where no one in the audience gets hurt and (almost) anything goes? If art is no longer a free space where human beings can express themelves without the prescriptions and proscriptions of external social norms and politics shaping every artistic choice, then there is no future for absurdists and oddballs. No such thing as a blank canvas for the politically-minded. Maybe it's deliberate, but in surreal twist, SightDifferentMiddleAgedWhiteCisNormativeJuvenile's politics are of the type that kills surrealists.

    Set yourself free, SightDifferentMiddleAgedWhiteCisNormativeJuvenile! All you have to lose are the chains of your ideologies, ya bleedin' dummy! 😂



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    His BBC show was great, I liked a good few of his podcasts. Started late so maybe listened through around 20 or so. I also liked his improv music whilst playing Cyberpunk and Red Dead.


    Odd thread. A lot of hatred for whatever reason. Must not be happy with your own existence.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I've seen that from a lot of his fans.

    Apparently if you really don't like him, its definitely a fault in your character. It's nowt to do with the plastic bag wearing, pseudo intellectual, bandwagon jumping, lying tosspot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I'm not sure I accused anyone in particular. I read the first few pages and the phenomenon I described is clear to see in those pages. I've no intention of reading back to see if your posts are amongst them or not.

    Why did you think I was discussung you in particular?



  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Luxemburgo


    He must have something new to shill and needs a bit of attention

    What an absolute twat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Heres an example of what I alluded to above. Your reason for why he's wrong is spurious. The reasons for disliking him aren't important, they're post-hoc rationalisations.

    Ill show you how if you like. He didn't say he didn't know it was wrong to use the word spastic (which you site as your reason), he said he didn't know the actual meaning of the word spastic was a specific disability instead of a general insult. Does it bother you at all that your reason for finding his behaviour "unacceptable" is false? I'd presume not but you might surprise me.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    As I said very angry. It's ok if you can't admit it.


    I feel that level of anger towards Priti Patel sometimes when she says stupid stuff like let's starve the Irish etc because she is in a position of power. However you are getting upset about some random lad playing computer games and spouting his thoughts on twitter.


    It's very odd. You must spend a lot of time on the internet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Yeah of course. And in reality, if he said that then the same posters would be expressing the same sentiment and saying "it would be fine if he's said xyz but instead [...] woke [...] and that's why he's wrong".

    I doubt the people who are cross about BB would be any less cross if he'd used a different way to acknowledge his use of the word spastic was wrong and he's sorry for any harm it caused. Angry people gonna angry on the Internet. Such is life, I suppose. Interesting to watch though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Liking or not liking his art is a matter of personal preference. Going on and on and on and on and on about him, is something additional. I dislike all kinds of artists, I never find myself 20 posts into a thread about them. You'd need to be fairly fascinated by a person to post that much about how much you dislike them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,274 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    He's hardly some "random lad". Under the Blindboy persona he's quite famous, released a hit single, has had considerable media exposure and has a large online following. Hes not Pol Pot but hes not beyond criticism either.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He said he didn't know the meaning of the word and that's why he used the word.

    That suggests if he had known the meaning he wouldn't have used it, if he wouldn't have used it, it would he would have thought it was wrong.

    Nothing I said was false.

    Jesus, the lengths you will go to try and validate your non-points would be impressive if it wasn't so tedious.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    lol. Condescending reply.

    I'm alright chief. I'm not angry. I just am commenting on a thread about a twat I don't like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ah, so he didn't say it and you expressed it as your reason for disliking him. So, exactly what I said?

    So just confirm for me, did he say he didn't know it was wrong or not?

    Post edited by El_Duderino 09 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    Many in this thread blowing things way out of proportion. Firstly he hasn’t “cancelled” himself, he simple explained the song, and still seems proud of it.

    He’s right, in Limerick that word is rampant and would be used as a negative term for someone you just don’t like. It would be reasonable to believe someone in limerick would be unaware that it has different connotations.

    Blindboy is good but he does something talk crap about things where he doesn’t really know what he’s on about. That would be ok if he wasn’t so intellectual and convincing.

    I would rather someone woke with that skill than some anti vaccine conspiracy theorist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭onrail


    Jayses the hate on here is baffling, but having been off twitter for a while, you'd forget what maniacs there are on the internet.

    I was never a fan of his music or his writing and proably come from the opposite end of the political spectrum as him, but generally find his podcasts insightful and interesting. Of course there is the occasional eye-roll, but he's a lot more self-aware than people make out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    Weird take.

    He issued an apology then lied about not knowing any better to soften the blow, lessen the backlash and deflect responsibility away from himself. The worse kind of non-apology.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Not in the slightest. A good few of my posts on this thread have been responding to condescending twats.



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  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You do give off angry vibes, dude. It seeps from your posts. Angry, probably middle-aged, chap finding everything irritating, different, and frustrating.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Oh I do find plenty of stuff irritating and frustrating. That much is true. But far from everything. That's a little unfair. Not too sure why my age is brought into it.

    But it's ok dude! I'm far from angry.

    But thanks for the review of my persona.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    Of course, there is such a thing as "woke". It's a term that has permeated our media, culture, and wider society. Whether you like it or not, or agree with it or not.

    In terms of Blindboy, I really don't know why he felt the need to apologise for something that he said over a decade ago. And something that is fairly innocuous, considering the content that a lot of rap/hip-hop artists have produced over the last 40 years.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I don't think anyone on this thread believes that BB didn't know what the term "spastic" meant when he was 22. Whether you are a fan or not. No one believes that.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    To quote Ralph Wiggum, "the ironing is delicious"



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    "Maniacs" - "insults from me is fine!"

    So much bizarre sneery, kinda spiteful passive-aggressiveness and dishonesty from those defending him. I do agree some here are going way over the top with the language they use to criticise him, but the other crowd aren't much better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    Off topic here, but what ever happened to the other Rubberbandit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I was in my 20s before i googled the term and found out what exactly it meant. I said above that I was watching the news and saw a politician use the term "spacticity" in reference to his own son's condition. It never occurred to me that spastic was a medial term or a technical term. I thought it was a term for someone being stupid (or having an intellectual disability) synonymous with an idiot (i've just googled the etymology of the term idiot for the first time in my life).

    Does this whole dislike of BB in this instance hinge on his not knowing what exactly the term spastic meant? Because that's not beyond the realms of possibility that he didn't know the exact meaning of spastic at the age of 22. I hadn't googled it and i had probably assumed it was synonymous with idiot at that age (but i doubt I'd ever though hard about it).

    Had you thought hard about the exact meaning of the term by that point in your life?

    I don't pretend to know whether BB had Googled the term spastic before he was 20 or if he just went with the colloquial usage of the term. I think I'm at a disadvantage to the people who are happy to pretend they know what BB knows. They pretend they can mind-read not only what someone else knew but WHEN they knew it... I can't compete with that unless I'm willing to also stray into making things up to prove a point, which I'm not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Are you trying to convince yourself ??


    There is no way in hell he didn't know at 22 ... all kids my age knew what it meant when we were 10 ffs!!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I knew what it meant when I was a teenager. Perhaps you have an incurious mind?



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    Absolutely. So much of that from people who think of themselves as the good guys.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09



    I doubt that. I'm not from Limerick, but spastic was definitely used when someone said something stupid or wrong or didn't know things. I knew it was an insult but it was more likely to be a term for an intellectual disability. It was interchangeable with retard. It's not a term that's taught in school or anything so I actually thing that assuming that EVERYONE , or even most people, had looked it up in the dictionary or Gooled it, it not realistic.



  • Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭TheWonderLlama


    Fellow Arsehole Rís survivor here:

    ye were probably a bit young for this, but the word certainly became a popular insult after this.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭onrail


    Didn't intend to defend him in this particular instance [I think anyone of a reasonably balanced nature can see through it]

    Just don't get why some of the people on here feel the need to be so overly harsh about his character in general.

    So, am I sneering at people becoming irate over a man with a plastic bag on his head. I suppose I am yes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    What does you not knowing the medical definition of the word have to do with BB lying about not knowing it was a slur?


    You haven't read his statement have you? The issue here isn't that he never knew the medical definition, it's that BB claims that he didn't know it was a derogatory term. You've spent all morning arguing a point that has no relevance to anything.



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