Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

There is nothing fictional about the data I quoted from the study. Something you could not bring yourself to acknowledge as it made a mockery of your efficacy dropping sharply and your, after 12 months it is like you never had the shots. If you are going to attempt scaremongering, at least try to have something to back it up. But then that is not how scaremongering propaganda works is it.

You can say that again.

It doesn't,"invariably unfold." You're speculating.

Let's the good times roll

But but but the media won't be giving up the scaremongering with these experts and there doomsday predictions

We'll see

Jesus ye lads love to hold a grudge

I see some parkruns are going to go ahead on 11th September.

Parkruns. They stopped parkruns in Ireland, that says it all.

As long as it’s the un vaccinated that’s placed into lockdown so be it. No way should a healthy person that’s vaccinated should be placed into lockdown. Why the f***k should they be? They aren’t the ones clogging the hospitals. As Tony H said himself the vaccines prevent 80% for illness and a 95% reduction chance of ending up in hospital full stop.

Yes i agree.

Ah the “ BuT LoOK aT IsRaEl”. There is always going to be a cut off the top for vaccinated to end up in hospital. Immuno compromised ( whatever you call it) and frail sick people etc. They were always going to end up in hospital. The average healthy vaccinated person won’t be clogging the hospitals. What do you think the total hospital figure would be in Israel if there were no vaccines?

Now lets look at the USA. A bigger country and population. 150k approx a day cases. The hospitals are being overwhelmed in some states and surprise surprise over 90% are not vaccinated.

The anti vaxxers need to change the record and give over. The proof is out there the vaccines work. It’s a fact.

The anti vaxxers should be kissing the vaccines ass because it’s the only reason Ireland isn’t in lockdown right now. Only 300 odd in hospitals while we have at least 1500 cases a day for a couple of months now. But do carry on spouting the BS.

No one claimed what you've stated in your first paragraph. If you keep making things up like that, the perceived integrity of your posts drops to zero.

In its relatively short life span to date there have been a number of mutations. Three in particular of concern in relation to the present vaccines, B.1.1.7 (Delta), B1.351 (South African) and P.1 (Brazil). To somehow believe that booster shots will not be required for, at the very least the vulnerable, is similar to believing flu booster shot will never be needed.

I quoted the actual data, (something you went to great pains to avoid, and even yet cannot acknowledge) so since when did data become propaganda, or how could scaremongering claims of efficacy dropping sharply after 6 months (where the actual data shows it did not) and the baseless "after 12 months it is like you never had the shots" be viewed as anything other than propaganda.

You chanced your arm and got caught. It`s no skin off my nose, but if you cannot acknowledge that, then would it not be a wiser course at this point to move on rather than keep highlighting it.

Why wouldn't it? Is human biology different in ireland? It will happen. It looks like breakthrough infections are starting to increase in the US now, following Israel's timeline.

Just happy to hear gigs in the stadium by my house in Salthill, it was comedy tonight but its lovely to hear the excited chatter ambiance that always accompanies gigs and stand up shows, I missed that sound for so long.

Authorising boosters and them being needed are two separate things.

Most people expected the COVID vaccine to be part of the yearly flu vaccine drive in years to come.

But expect that they will target the spreaders (young people) and those most at risk (generally old people) with that drive. COVID boosters will likely only target the latter this year, maybe next. COVID seems more stable then the flu (= same vaccine stays working), but like other coronavirus, the immunity wanes over time (but the fact the virus isn't novel to the immune system maybe enough that vaccines aren't needed as often as flu).