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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,560 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭chuck eastwood


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    Do you actually pay for OnlyFans?


    Wait for it... Padre is gonna start preaching. If ones internet history could only confess ðŸ˜


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭BurnUp78


    bhad bhabie, aka cash me outside dr phil girl recently turned 18 and made an only fans. apparantly she made 1 million dollars in 6 hours of going live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Kamu


    BurnUp78 wrote: »
    bhad bhabie, aka cash me outside dr phil girl recently turned 18 and made an only fans. apparantly she made 1 million dollars in 6 hours of going live.

    That's a person who is leveraging her infamy very well. Life changing money all because the internet ran with her 'cash me outside'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    BurnUp78 wrote: »
    bhad bhabie, aka cash me outside dr phil girl recently turned 18 and made an only fans. apparantly she made 1 million dollars in 6 hours of going live.

    All power to her.

    The problem is the Jacinta looks at this and thinks she can do the same.

    Throws a load of nudes on OnlyFans, makes a fiver, gets them leaked on whatsapp, and cries "revenge porn"


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  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kamu wrote: »
    That's a person who is leveraging her infamy very well. Life changing money all because the internet ran with her 'cash me outside'.

    Is it "cash me outside"? I've been saying "catch me" as in, you can talk to me outside. No wonder my street cred has been languishing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Kamu


    Is it "cash me outside"? I've been saying "catch me" as in, you can talk to me outside. No wonder my street cred has been languishing.

    Apologies, it is 'catch me' but the way she pronounced it was closer to 'cash me' so I always tan with that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,151 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    She did say cash me outside. How bout dat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    They're the ones I usually immediately scroll past (unless they have "the eyes"), and keep searching for the girl next door look. That plastic barbie look... don't know how anyone likes it tbh. Perfectly good looking girls going plastic because... fashion?
    I guess so. Whatever the reason its a shame. The pouty lips and duckfacing is an epidemic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,686 ✭✭✭✭kowloon



    Is Bhad Bhabie meant to be Bad Barbie with a Boston accent?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,710 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    kowloon wrote: »
    Is Bhad Bhabie meant to be Bad Barbie with a Boston accent?

    I’ve been saying it “B’had B’habby”.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,318 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde






    Clock struck midnight, and boom, she was 18 and on OF's minutes later getting her kit off for old men all around the world.
    This is the world we now live in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,318 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    A kid one minute before midnight, a pornstar one minute after. Pretty messed up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    I’ve been saying it “B’had B’habby”.

    B-had, like Jihad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Clock struck midnight, and boom, she was 18 and on OF's minutes later getting her kit off for old men all around the world.
    This is the world we now live in.

    Nothing much new about that.

    More than one case going back decades of the British tabloids having a countdown 'til legal for certain underage (15 year old) celebrity girls.

    Lots of 16, 17, 18 year olds appeared on page 3 and the methods used by some of the photographers to get the pics and publish them would (or at least should) land them in jail these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    In times like this, I wish I had boobs and a hotbox :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I’ve been saying it “B’had B’habby”.

    Peter Griffin style?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    We need Sharia law.

    Would this be based on the teachings of "Man I feel like a woman" and "That don't impress me much"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,318 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Live and let live. Anyone who is loud and proud and happy to do ''Prime Time'' tv to promote their OF's is living their best life. Those people who love to see themselves on the media news like Barbie or whatever her name is love it as it's more promotion



    The teenagers up and down the country doing it in secret , making content in their parents home, in their bedroom, who want the money but none of the publicity are kidding themselves, the type of men who subscribe to their content are not ones to keep their secrets, it will be shared and shared and end up on porn sites all across the world. Already there is an OnlyFans category on every porn site, and it's not self promotion, it's shared and uploaded leaked content.



    If you're going to do OFs take out a full page advert in your local newspaper, and a national one, promoting your OFs profile, Promote Promote Promote.
    People who are loud and proud have nothing to fear on OFs. So if you're going to do it scream it from the roof tops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Clock struck midnight, and boom, she was 18 and on OF's minutes later getting her kit off for old men all around the world.
    This is the world we now live in.

    And all her OF content is now free on sharing sites. Don't bother looking for it, it's sh*te.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Link? Asking for myself because I have no friends.

    I care about your mental health too much to give you a link.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    One result of a society thats taught "live and let live", "do whatever you like", "it doesn't affect me, so what?" etc.

    No standards results in no standards. Shocker.

    Children being implicitly told that creating pornography is perfectly fine go on to create pornography.

    Society reaps what it sows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,467 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    Do you actually pay for OnlyFans?

    Oh god no. Too expensive, and you only get 1 account at a time. Been a long time since I paid for porn, and that was only a month or two of suicide girls (nekkid girls with tattoos). And that was more a case of seeing if the price was worth it.

    So much free porn out there, you'd be mad to pay for it in this day and age. But I reckon some people who pay for OF seem to think they might be the only one, they're special and that's why they pay. And quite possibly some OF accounts do personalised videos, but for a hefty price I'd imagine.

    People with more money than they can spend usually spend it on this. Why not shur, basically costs pocket money to those people, if even. Plus, some people may not be as au fait with ad blockers, so may pay to remove ads. Not me though, I only recently downloaded the reddit app, and it's a great free source of softcore/posing porn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,571 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    OF announces today that it's not allowing explicit sexual content after Oct 1st.

    Well that went well for certain people!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Onlyfans itself will be gone by the new year...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    They're only banning "sexually explicit conduct." Nude photos and videos are ok so it probably won't affect most users.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    They are under pressure from credit card company's to tone down the content, so they are Banning adult content but still allow nudity, adult XX videos are legal in America but onlyfans depends on taking x per cent of each subscription . Onlyfans needs to be able to accept payments to exist as a business.

    There's Christian extremist groups trying to make porn illegal so they way they are doing this is by putting pressure on banks credit card company's to stop payments to sex workers the fosta law passed last year made it illegal to provide online ads or support for sex workers, escorts so basically some people want to remove all sex workers from online payments



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,231 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    That's the end of Only Fans so haha.

    Won't change anything tho. People will just be posting their hard-core stuff on another subscription site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    This is another example of the increasing levels of pseudo-legislative powers that is being concentrated into private payment providers.

    The deeper we go into electronic payments, the more power that Visa and Mastercard have to unilaterally decide what we are and aren't allowed to spend our money on.

    This is not about OnlyFans. This about the individuals' right to access any service this is legal. This is Mastercard and Visa de facto becoming morality police.

    At this stage we need to legislate at the national level and give the banking regulator full power over this. Payment providers should not be permitted to blacklist any business without a court order. Where they believe a business to be dealing in illegal material or otherwise accepting payments for illegal services, they should have an obligation to report that to a specific body who investigates and directs the next course of action. It should not be within the power or remit of a private company to just close off any business's line of revenue - or an individual's access to a service.

    That includes an obligation on payment service providers to honour any payment to an essential service such as groceries, utilities, petrol station, etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    And of course people will just go to free porn websites , the sex workers on only fans will be mostly out of business as most people will not pay for non x rated content

    And there's lots of pretty women on twitch.com get paid subs for talking singing or doing yoga exercises



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    A lot of these OF creators will be pissed off, huge revenue stream gone, and they could do it keeping anonymity and the lions share of the profits, a pity really ...



  • Posts: 2,077 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Agree - unless of course the company isn't paying its bills to them.



  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    I imagine some copycat site will spring up shortly. Someone will figure out a solution to the payment issue, it's too profitable to just die.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Even then, it shouldn't be easy to cut them off. For many businesses, being unable to access electronic payment services effectively means being unable to operate. Any process that involves shutting down their ability to use the payment service should have to follow a very set process regardless of the business; for example filing a petition for liquidation if the business is not paying its bills. Otherwise you'll have situations where one business (e.g. online sex shop) gets blacklisted at the first instance of a chargeback, while a more "respectable" business such as Starbucks can be 6 months in arrears and they still get to operate.

    For example, energy providers in Ireland are not permitted to cut off consumer supply for non-payment. Someone who is not paying their ESB bill and is unable to pay their ESB bill, cannot be cut off while they are living in property and at least attempting to make some form of payment. Because we recognise that electricity is essential, and a person having access to electricity is more important than a company getting their money.

    Payment providers are approaching that level of essentiality and we need to implement similar protections for consumers and businesses in recognition of this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,318 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    So many pornstars and ONLYfans users have committed suicide in past 2 years, then you have kids in school who are suicidal and depressed as other kids in school are flaunting around naked onlyfan photos of their mom or older sister.

    It really is the site that keeps on giving .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,904 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    the fact that it was linked (by the "models" themselves ) to empowerment was laughable. many are on twitter daily giving out about men without a hint of irony



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭Homelander


    I don't really get the card companies being able to levy pressure on OF to bar explicit content. How do all the major porn production companies process their payments?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,376 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Strange then that the ESB introduced a moratorium on disconnections during Covid. If they were not doing disconnections, then a moratorium would not be needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    To be fair to him, Seamus did include the provisio that people’s utilities aren’t cut off as long as they are making some attempt to pay their bills.

    But as for the wider point about Visa or MasterCard appointing themselves the ‘morality police’, this is only coming up precisely because it’s OnlyFans. They refuse to provide their services to other private companies and individuals too for a number of reasons. I don’t agree they should be under any obligation to provide their services to anyone they don’t want to, for any reason. If they don’t wish to provide their services to a business which they are of the opinion goes against their ethics, then they shouldn’t be forced to do so and I can’t see them being forced to provide their services to businesses they don’t wish to.

    It’s still not telling anyone how they can or can’t spend their money. It’s telling people that they don’t have the right to demand that either Visa or MasterCard provide them with their services.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,592 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    I think your reading to much into this

    Its a website where many young immature girls (18-early 20s) post ridiculously intimate pictures and videos that will be still around when they have long since died from old age. Its teaching young girls who should be working hard that they don't need to if they have boobs and a fanny

    There is lots of issues about personal freedom that we should be more concerned about right now before OF being cancelled should even get a fleeting thought from anyone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,571 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    I think the whole 'pressure from payment companies' is complete BS. There are plenty of other sites of the same type that use the same payment providers.

    The issue is that the two OF founders want to IPO the company. OF had become an adult-site by default.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,318 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Huge turn around, now they are not changing a thing, all content will be allow, so many middle school kids will be relieved

    wtf

    Money talks, nothing changes,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    Yeah? Is this a shock? Business sees customer backlash and quickly u-turns on the decision in order to remain profitable.

    It's a business....that makes money.....and wants to continue making money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,318 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    So they found a '' mystery'' bank who will deal wit them. It won't be a mystery for long.. then the bank will get it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭85603


    IPO? Oh damn Id love to own stock in whores.

    Go to the agm, complain about the sluts cut being too high.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Honestly I don't think you're reading into this enough. Personally, I'd never pay for something like OnlyFans, and I also understand the very very vast majority of people posting on there are not making much money at all, but I also am not under any delusion that sex workers do a lot more behind the scenes than people realise.

    However, as someone who previously worked for a payment processor (Stripe in my case) I can in complete honesty say that many major banks simply do not want to touch this kind of content, because it is often viewed as immoral or 'dirty money'.

    Despite anyone's opinion on OnlyFans or other adult industries, it's a terrible thing where banks are capable of determining someone's income.

    When I worked with Stripe I'd often have to review adult accounts, which we'd inevitably have to close because our banking partners wanted nothing to do with them. In quite a lot of cases at the time it was very popular for girls to sell access to 'private' Snapchat accounts, for like $15-50 for a year or whatever it was. I distinctly remember seeing one particular account that was pulling in like $3,000 a month, and due to how she'd set up with Stripe she was paying her due taxes and reported it all come April. She broke no laws, did nothing illegal and neither did those who willingly paid for her content.

    It blows my mind that we're totally okay with actors making millions each year from action films or genuine gore horror movies, but because some women are out there making money off the pathetic horniness of some men, we feel the need to try and stop them making money.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yeah people feel brilliant when they say "her body, she can do what she wants, fair play to her, it's empowering" and then the generic fallbacks of "jealous, prude" etc if someone critiques it. It's fashionable to have these views and it makes people feel really liberal and progressive and enlightened, but it's actually quite a shallow take, not involving much in the way of thought.

    Now part of me does kinda agree that if you've a great body and can make money from it, go for it. But then there's the bigger picture - will it affect career prospects in the future? Will it affect your personal life in general? (Relationships, family, children). Will you regret it long-term? It's really something that requires a lot of thought and planning, with a safety net. When the work dries up in your 30s you may want to train for a new career. And now you've this digital imprint that could put off an employer. But people in their late teens and 20s don't think that way (including me at that age) - they do things impulsively without considering consequences.

    Whatever about becoming a stripper when living in a big, anonymous city far away for a few years, online is risky.

    Plus, I'm not sure how great it is that making pornography is so easy and something to be so blasé about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,837 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Virgin Media Ireland have a new documentary lined up to talk about it from their New Season launch unveiled today. It's called Onlyfans: Ireland's X-Rated. It's supposed to feature a woman in her 40's who is talking about her experiences of gaining money & popularity on the site. I don't think I will be interested in watching it but I think it has captured the perfect audience who are interested in this low grade rubbish. Any takers?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,467 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Attitude is part of the problem. You do something, and people hold it against you for years. So these people are getting naked and making money, why should it affect future anything? Because the general public are still hard wired to believe anything to do with sex is sacrosanct and shouldn't even be talked about. Ok, it's not that bad anymore, but just look at the replies here. People judging those who do it because.... why? Because you don't agree with it?

    Once we can start there, the adult industry could become a proper, legit business with proper protections. But until this outdated attitude towards nudity and sex is gone, it will remain the seedy business it oft times is. Someone saying that they previously did adult material should have the same effect as someone saying they previously worked as a plumber.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It could be a picture of a pair of boobs and a vagina. Its not the 80's or 90's.

    Who cares.

    If they only have post social media content an hour or two a week and make really good money fair play to them.

    I'd rather do that than work 40 hours a week in my office job.

    Everyone on this planet be dead in a 100 years anyway. When you stop caring what other people think about you, you get a new lease of life.



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