Will there be another lockdown?

Triage is based on degrees of urgency. Like you said, 'The best chance of survival'.

Refusing to treat someone because they made a choice that goes against official advice is outside any tradition of Western medical ethics.

Note: not saying that tobacco smoke is literally poisonous but you know what I mean - it is extremely hazardous.

I agree it's silly. Even sillier are the deathbed conversions to vaccination.

Basically there are people who shifting from one kind of materialism (alternative therapy/skepticism) to another ('the experts'/The Science/the mainstream). And apparently this is their big concern when staring death in the face.

We're now wayyy off topic. Goodnight.

Lockdown in Scotland??? When's this happening?

So, it is inevitable now that we'll be sold next lockdown very soon.

I wonder, who'll adhere to that one now?

Lockdown cannot be justified again. The country is on its last knees as it is, lockdowns have a monumental cost, expanding and investing in our ICU capacity would be expensive but small beans in comparison to shutting down society again, the fact that little to none investment in the HSE from the government but support for seemingly endless lockdowns on the merry-go-round won’t stand among the populace this time. The fact that 90% of the population have done their bit for “king and country” and gotten vaccinated which we were sold would end the pandemic, even the most covid aware people are getting worn out. Resistance to small things in comparison to lockdown like mask mandates and vaccine certs shows this, resistance is growing everyday. Unless we go full police state like Melbourne then another won’t work. People will not comply.

Irish media are working their asses off to make everything possible so 22 Oct does not happen this year. Straight after cancellation of 22 Oct we'll be sold another lockdown to protect unvaccinated people and our crumbling hospitals. Probably this time, there'll be no happy seals clapping their hands to HSE

Did Scotland ever come out of that lockdown ?

Yep but doesn't matter to members of the government/NPHET and the likes who will still be on full pay and can go to work

Another lockdown/restrictions would be a disaster for many industries particularly the entertainment industry. Truly the rug been pulled from under them if the 22nd gets postponed as so many are planning to run full attendance events

The hospitals are going to get overrun this winter, just like every year pre covid. Will we as a nation tolerate that, as we have done in the past.

we have been trained to be ultra cautious now for 18 months. Not easy to quickly revert back.

Or more likely interpreted as the vast majority of people in the ICU suffering with Covid were unvaccinated and also that not one fully vaccinated person under 50 has died of Covid. Or that 4 out of 5 hospital and ICU admissions were unvaccinated and those that were had an underlying condition or suppressed immune system. Or that 50% of people in ICU are aged between 19 and 55 with nearly all vaccinated.

Cant see them staying with the current restrictions if/when the 22nd reopening gets canned, we could see some version of Level 3-5 coming into Christmas, Me thinks they will want Hospitality closed for December as they cant be having people in there Christmas jumpers singing/dancing and having fun, Christmas festivals will be scaled back to something similar to 2020 and **** knows what else

Its really really depressing thinking about it, us locked down while many of our fellow EU countries are somewhat back to pre covid times and having a wonderful Christmas