Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

The last US military plane has left Afghanistan. Withdrawal complete.

Required viewing for some on here....

You would think that the heads in the west wing would be able to control things a little bit better than they are. They didn't have to do to much to look better than the last lot but talk about screwing the pooch big time!

I think the way they are handling the storm is setting a perfect example. Biden has been clear, to the point, showed empathy, compassion. He hasn't tried to downplay, or make up stuff either. He hasn't made any political points about governors from different parties, it is an US issue, which although being directly faced by those in its path is going to have the full strength of the US to back them up.

In fairness, is one overloaded plane really such a terrible thing in the context of a chaotic evacuation?

So you agree that his handling of the storm was good, since you immediately ignored it and went onto to something else?

His job is to look after Americans, and Americans don't care about foreigners. Trump leveraged that to such an extend that millions of Americans were happy to ban Muslims from coming into the country at all, and saw any person from south of the border as a significant threat.

So while you and I may agree that the position that Biden has taken in relation to the poor people in Afghanistan is awful, it is exactly what the American people want.

The original comment was that the White house is was handling things very badly, I was pointing out that they have got some things very right.

Sure, but waiting how long? It is easy to say that troops should stay until everyone is out, but how many troops. Too few and they become sitting ducks. Once incident leads to another, more troops are needed to give additional protection. Suddenly 3 years go by and still troops are stuck there.

There was no 'good' way of leaving, certainly no way to leave that would have pleased everyone. Very few soldiers were killed or injured, so from that POV it was a success. Those people unhappy with Biden's performance will quickly forget about it as it disappears from the news.

If people are unhappy with the withdrawal what realistic option do they have? Vote for the GOP which landed the US in the war in the 1st place, or the Dems that got them out. Unfortunately, given the nature of US politics, that is the only choice. So while people may be unhappy, when the time for a decision to be made actually comes up, there isn't a 'happy' option.

At that point you would be arguing that a lot of the people causing issues were released by the person overseeing the chaos. Indeed you would also see that the deal made with the Taliban coming into play more.

You have different set ups to these potential scenarios so they are different. What happened is definitely partially on Biden but also on what has gone on there for the last 20 years. Biden has largely accepted that failure to come up with a long term plan but he is at least not pouring money into it to hide this fact.

Did you miss the part where Trump and Pompeo negotiated with them and agreed to release 5K prisoners as long as Taliban wouldn't attack US until they left? Oh, and they left the Afhan government out of those negotiations despite being warned it would undermine them and lead to the Taliban taking over as soon as they did go....

Does Joe the middle American who has a blue collar job and is married with a couple of kids really care about Afghanistan?

I thought Biden’s team would be trying to bring it back to Covid and the hurricane.