US and Nato withdrawal from Afghanistan...- threadbanned users in OP

Unsavoury gardening tools?😬

I wonder will they have these sorts of exchanges with non-Pashto speaking prisoners

Blackadder:

Oh, fire, fire. Ah good. Right. So let's recap. Um... if I admit that I am in love...

Torturer:

No! No!

Blackadder:

Sorry, head over heels in love with Satan and all his little wizards, then you will remove my testicles with a blunt instrument...

Torturer:

Una guada?a, una guada?a.

Blackadder:

...resembling some kind of gardening tool but we can't quite... um... and roast them over a large fire.

If the goal was to disable the equipment as efficiently as possible, the answer would be to remove or damage the electronic control units, after that, they're just steel and wiring to be recycled, no fire or explosions needed.

Anything not electronic (e.g. guns) would need to have some of the parts removed.

Do you understand why the likes of the Taliban prefer AK's? Easiest weapon to use and will work in almost any environment. Have you any idea how hard it is to keep a modern day military weapon functioning? There's a reason why the army drills it into you to keep your weapon clean. Most of those guns (if they haven't had parts removed) will be useless within a year in that environment without the correct cleaning.

Yeah obviously some of it will be used, how they use it is the million dollar question I suppose. Interesting times either way.

Yes the AK is easier and doesn't need the care and attention of some western kit, but availability was key to their use.

The Afghans (Mujahideen, Northern Alliance, Taliban) had ready supply when Soviets pulled out and even before that it was handy when you killed Red army soldiers and just grabbed their magazines.

You can source AKs from almost anywhere and don't have to worry about pesky arms embargoes from EU, NATO or the US.

Claiming they are a bit thick and won't have the wherewithal to use some of this kit is the typical US/British arrogant view of the enemy.

Their predecessors the Mujahideen managed to figure out how to stinger missiles and the like quick enough with basic training.

The very complex shyte may not be used since they don't have the training or willing trainers, some of the kit will be used until they can't fix it, but a lot of kit will be used.

BTW the Toyota distributor in Afghanistan must be licking his lips.

"So not a single Taliban soldier will ever fire one of those machine guns or drive one of those trucks?"

The Taliban are global brand ambassadors for Hilux. They're not going to jeopardize whatever arrangement they have with Toyota to start driving something 2nd rate.

They had a good reason for using the Stingers, they targeted the MILs that the Russians used to move troops in and out.

For local population control, I just can't see them needing anything that technical.

As long as they stay true to their roots of barbarism and fear, they'll have enough.

Thought the phrasing was interesting, who are the bad guys again?

https://twitter.com/i/events/1432658500455387138

The Times

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Yesterday

Now in control of the US' largest Afghan base, the Taliban discover some of the horrors that took place thereBagram Air Base was the nerve centre for the US occupation of Afghanistan for nearly 20 years. A vast complex, the site was hastily abandoned following America's withdrawal.

Newly in control of the base Taliban leaders, many of whom were once held in prisons at the facility, take Times reporter Anthony Lloyd on a journey around the facility.

Photo via @thetimes

"But I was thinking more in line of a small explosive charge,,,,,one BOOM, and bingo not only does it look the look, it acts it too"

Again, this isn't like in the movies, you need time to do this and you don't go setting off explosives when you have people around unless you're willing for those people to get hurt, a hammer will do as much damage to a helicopter just as well as one of your "small explosives" and is equally as effective.

I well understand what the use of explosives entails, and I know how simple it is to damage the electronics, but doing it that way means lots of usable parts still available. I'm pretty sure that explosives could be rigged so that the last man out trips the switch.

The Chinese already have exact clones of everything America has from the Chinese humvee to Blackhawk to f35s

They don't buy it they take directly from sources through hack's

Taliban feels "Betrayed" that the equipment they are seeing left behind is broken beyond repair.

"Betrayed." lol

Jaysus, shows how much of a bunch of mugs they take the US & the West for - already got their paws on most of the weaponry of the (fake) Afghan army, also expecting the US/NATO militaries would have left them more presents in the airport after pulling out!

One

Thermite grenades don't explode they burn very hot.

Two

"likely blown up" means they don't know, They may have blown some things up but there were no reports from journalists there and I'm sure there would be video floating around by now if they had.

Just putting it out there , but setting off explosions at an airport surrounded by bad guys with aks and RPGs and civilians would be a very bad idea when it comes to a highly stressed environment with lots of weapons on both sides .

Manual destruction would be a safer option ?