What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

That's clearly because of the racial profiling! /s

Really now, given that it was proven that police are actually LESS likely to go against muslim men out of fear of being perceived as racist, imagine how much higher the real % really is.

Head in the sand fingers in the ears, it all good, all this never happened and even if it did it will never happen here in Ireland because if I am to admit that I'm concerned that will mean I'm racist and we really can't have that. We can have rapes and bombings and beheadings, but that's a small price to pay in order to preserve the non racist all welcoming image because that's all that matters.

But many of the people coming here can be coming here because we're more liberal when it comes to sexuality, to be gay in Brazil or Iran is hard, so many come here to escape it.

I love to see the mix of people in Dublin, I feel it brings different ways of thinking. I don't think everyone coming here is getting low paid jobs, they are just the ones that are more visible, if you want evidence that there are people coming here for better-paid jobs, go to the pride parade, many tech firms had staff march in the parade and it was great to see the mix of people in the company's groups marching.

I for one love to be among people from different backgrounds. I was cycling home yesterday and could see some couples who were quite possibly from different countries, Irish and non-irish, it just made me smile.

To say this multicultural thing is destined for failure depends on what you'd set as failure or success. Just that I can mix with people from different countries when I'm out and about is a success of kind for me alreaady.

No, it means the two ideas which you’re so determined to conflate are unrelated. It’s absolutely plausible to be in favour of immigration AND abhor the ideas of rapes, bombings and beheadings. You’re arguing as though through immigration they’re an inevitability, and they’re not, and they never were, and they never will be.

That’s happening only in your imagination, and you need other people to believe it in order to convince them that immigration is bad, whereas what’s actually bad are rapes, bombings and beheadings, regardless of the ethnicity or sex of the perpetrator(s).

It appears that much like your inability to distinguish between immigrants and criminals, you don’t appear to be able to distinguish between a senior police officer, and UK police.

There clearly is plenty to distinguish between immigrants and criminals? There’s you applying the label of culture to two distinct groups and then saying it doesn’t matter what label is applied! Clearly it does matter - one group has the presumption of innocence, the other group have been found guilty of criminal offences.

You want to differentiate between the two groups on the basis of ethnicity to support your argument against immigration, so don’t tell me it doesn’t matter what label is applied!

It’s curious how you don’t apply that same rationale to the argument you’re making when you try to portray immigrants as criminals? Notwithstanding the fact that I can support my perspective with surveys too -

People outrightly opposed to immigration are in a minority in most countries in the West (the survey above only concerns Europe), and of those people opposed to immigration their major concerns are economy and security. From that we can say with confidence that the vast majority of people in Western society do not share Anne’s ideas of “Western values”. I have no idea what Anne’s ideas of “Western values” are specifically that they claim to have fought for, but given their opinions are in a minority, it’s safe to say their values whatever they are, do not constitute Western values.

Well, you can, if you want to, while keeping in mind that I didn’t argue with the dates of your examples. Go back and look at the dates of your own examples if you want to make the point that the standard everyone should be held to is only what’s happening at this present moment in time. I’d think you were being silly and dishonest, but feel free to make that argument if you wish, as long as we’re all being held to the same standard.

"Immigration concerns fall in Western Europe, but most see need for newcomers to integrate into society" Integration is antithetical to the creation of a multi-cultural country so thats not really a counter argument.

Well you brought up the integration aspect, I didn’t, and in any case integration does not mean assimilation, as some posters here appear to think it should on the basis that they imagine everyone in society already shares their values. They certainly do not. Multiculturalism is not necessarily all about immigrants.