US and Nato withdrawal from Afghanistan...- threadbanned users in OP

Exactly, setting off explosives In a volatile situation as we seen last week could have opened up a massive gunfight that could have left many innocents dead.

Yes, but salvageable for parts, and thats the difference, like the one beside the dog kennels.

Jesus it shouldn't be this hard.

You have twenty helicopters, you smash the control consoles or even just take out the CPU on all twenty, now you don't have helicopters anymore you have expensive junk.

You have all the salvagable spare parts you want but without that console or that CPU then those piles of junk are never leaving the ground again, now do you understand?

Its not hard Timber..at least for me, but the whole thrust of this conversation as far as I'm concerend anyway, is to try and find out out exactly what the Taliban have, and is servicable. And one way to do this is to see whats beyond use. And trust me, I'm fully aware of what it takes to make something beyond repair....I've come across plenty of them. Now do you have any idea of what the Taliban actually have?

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I'm sitting in a airport, waiting for a flight to be called, with time on my hands, Loafing. Enjoy, with my blessing.😀

I commented on one particular helicopter that according to the pic had repairable external damage. I also mentioned that without interior pics, it was hard to see if it had been completely destroyed or not. One aircraft, not multiple ones. And I also mentioned that in another hanger there were aircraft that were clearly beyond repair. Now do you have any idea of the NR of Aircraft, Humvees etc that the Taliban do have.. because, these are the Aircraft / Vehicle's that are important. The ones proven to be beyond use can be subtracted from the total list to make a definite list.

Your implication was that the US was doing a poor job by not putting old equipment out of commission, using a picture of a helicopter with external damage as evidence of that, then it was explained that you may not be able to see the damage that makes the helicopter a pile of steel and cabling rather than a military weapon.

Then somewhere the point of your post was lost as Timberr explained in different ways how they could be put out of commission without fire and explosions (thermite not being an explosive).

So, starting again, what point are you trying to make?

You are not in Kabul airport by any chance?

Because if you are then that flight aint going to be called so you might as well mooch round and get photos of all the kit that is left just to confirm to some people that some shyte was indeed left.

On a more serious note there is loads of kit left as the equipment given/sold to Afghan army is all nearly there.

And as I said before a lot of the stuff can indeed be used.

Even the more technical stuff like aircraft can be used, parts can be gotten by cannibalising other non flyable aircraft if you have the technical know how to do it.

But eventually the US made kit becomes an issue because they won't have the parts and probably the skills to fix them.

But all the Soviet/Russian kit (Mi-8, 17, 24, 35) will be usable.

They just need to "convince" some pilots and engineers to work with them.

Also those humvees are shyte, they are probably better off sticking to the Hi-luxs.

Supposedly the US troops disabled or demilitarised 73 aircraft in Kabul airport.

Oh and they disabled the C-RAM system just before they left.

But remember that is only Kabul, all the other bases just fell into Taliban hands without really a fight.

BTW the Taliban reckon they can repair the blackhawks, chinooks, etc.

Maybe they reckon they can fly with a Toyota 4litre Hi-lux engine 😁

That evacuation will be remembered as much as the Siagon one, maybe even more so as people fell from the planes and then you have suicide bombings. You can’t blame the previous administration for an evacuation you are in charge of.

He’s going to get blamed for the evacuation mess. These days the news moves faster but this will still be brought up. I don’t know if it intentional but he’s not in the news much. It as if they forget about him.

Believe what you want. But thats not what happened. The US and Allies left. That's only reason the Taliban are back.

While I might disagree with the how they did the withdrawal, fact is was done with a minimal loss of life to the US troops and others military on the ground. That's not to ignore the terrible loss of life among civilians. But historically withdrawals have often been far worse than this.

Maybe not to you Flinty ( or me either, under the present circumstances} But I guarantee you this much, there's people burning the midnight oil at this moment trying to find out exactly what the Taliban now have....and what condition it is in. And not just the Americans either. For this, a list will definitely be needed, especially if some of it starts to turn up in the west.

Curious how you think they will get a Humvee from Afghanistan to Ireland for example in such a way thats its threat to someone in Ireland.