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F1 2021 Round 13: Dutch Grand Prix

  • 03-09-2021 8:17am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭


    Circuit Zandvoort , New to the Calander


    Schedule

    FP1 Fri, 03 Sept 10:30

    FP2 Fri, 03 Sept 14:00

    FP3 Sat, 04 Sept 11:00

    QU Sat, 04 Sept 14:00

    RaceSun, 05 Sept 14:00



    Cannot say much about this track , when the talk of it started plenty of drivers said it would be impossible to over take here with the current cars.

    I know the made some changes to the track to bring it up to F1 .



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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭barryribs


    Great track, some really nice corners. The blast from turn 3 to turn 8 is spectacular but overtaking is going to be impossible



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Joeface


    More following the money , but its FIA and F1 mo . hopefully I am proved wrong .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,799 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    Having played it in the F1 game, my experience is that it is a narrow circuit where other than the banked corners there is only 1 line to race on so overtaking will be hard

    It will be a bit like Hungary in the end

    This video of the safety car on a lap shows how narrow it is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KmFRx4r_-M



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,295 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Almost every driver has been out for a track walk, even Lewis which is unusual. Maybe it won’t be great for overtaking but the first race on a new track is usually interesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,904 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Not expecting a classic on race day, it's such a narrow track and modern F1 cars are massive. This will probably be all about qualifying. Weather forecast looks dry and sunny for the weekend



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭CONSI


    I know its still a pandemic and F1 is doing well to keep races on but why go to a track where people cant pass. Surely thats not what people want to watch, a procession around lap after lap with no racing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Joeface


    One thing I cannot wait for is F1 reporters to stop asking Russell and Bottas where they are going to be driving next year . Its pain ful at this stage .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,799 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    Max

    No way would they consider going there, nor would Zandvoort have done the updates to the track without the Max factor

    It's probably due to the money Max can generate for the circuit, which is the right kind of money grab at least and not the Middle Eastern bloody money



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,031 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Concensus seems to be it will be all about qualifying as over taking will be rare and hard come by, could be quite a punishing track if a driver loses focus, plenty turns and never too far from the wall. Any chance of the race being a two stop to shake things up?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,882 ✭✭✭This is it


    Engine failure for Vettel



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭pjdarcy


    Max knows this track very well so I'm hopeful that he'll be dominant this weekend in front of his home crowd



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    I’d imagine we’ll see a safety car or two tomorrow given the lack of run-off so could be a lottery for who can pick up a cheap pit stop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    Max is about! During the Schumacher years, they had 2 races in Germany.


    Also Heineken is Dutch and is the main sponsor for this weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Joeface


    Was hoping Ferrari would be in the Mix here as well .

    Qualifing is going to be chaos traffic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,758 ✭✭✭quokula


    It's a pity the current barges that pass for F1 cars are so unsuited to classic tracks. Still, there's plenty of scope for errors to be punished and interesting strategies to play out. You can't overtake at Monaco and that doesn't stop it throwing up great races sometimes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,421 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    2nd weekend in a row where the race result will be decided on the Saturday it seems.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,758 ✭✭✭quokula


    If you're in second place and you have the faster car, you have the option of the undercut. Team mates or other midfield runners going long could come into play too if overtaking is difficult enough that they could still defend on much older tyres. Mistakes will be punished by gravel and barriers. Safety cars are likely. There are so many possibilities for an interesting race, not every track needs to allow the fastest car to blast past with DRS open on a straight to guarantee victory, sometimes more difficult overtaking can make races interesting too. We need to wait and see before passing judgement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,295 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Yeah I agree a lot of people said similar things about Hungary but that was a great race.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Joeface


    Hamilton Red Flag this time , Power loss , stopped on Track



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,204 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    Bit of a joke that he didn’t coast it off the track instead of parking it on the corner for the potential of an accident.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,244 ✭✭✭rameire


    Red Flag.

    Haas: Mazepin.

    Brought the car to the beach.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This track 13+ years ago would've been great, imagine Kimi/Alonso/Hamilton going flat out for 10 laps at a time. They'd be knackered :L



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Joeface


    Decent from the Ferrari



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,295 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Wasn't it Ferrari who brought in a bunch of engine upgrades?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Joeface


    Nope think that engine upgrade is for Monza .


    Some turn around if they get going. Definitely the best team driver line up on the grid. Sainz is very under rated at times . Almost as fast as Leclecre but is better on tires than Leclecre. Makes them very even



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I don't think they've decided when to introduce the engine upgrades yet. They have both used all their engines (sainz certainly has), so they need to take an engine penalty when they use the upgrades.

    Monza would usually be a good place to take an engine penalty as they could presumably use the new engines to make up the places, but Ferrari might be reluctant to do it there. Remains to be seen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,435 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Serious track this, never seems to stop after the main straight.

    Max's long stint times were very fast, Merc compromised with only have 1 car to do 2 cars worth of work. Should be a good qualy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    Kimi is out with Covid and Kubica in for the weekend


    https://twitter.com/F1/status/1434056512796758018?s=19



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    Atmosphere looks brilliant out there and its only f3 quali, great go see!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Hope he recovers well.

    It must be the most inconsequential substitution of all time. An aging driver phoning it in for a drivers whose return, 2 years ago, was a complete flop. Tough ask for Bobby K now to step in having missed Friday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,421 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    It's a very small paddock and Kimi has had quite a bit of media contact.

    I wouldn't be surprised if we get some more people dropping out. Not necessarily other drivers but media people and maybe even Fred Vassuer although he contracted earlier this year didn't he?

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,380 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Max has been summoned to the stewards for overtaking under a red flag in FP3 😯




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Carlos Seinz just crashed his car and the session has been red flagged.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    He's probably delighted that he has an excuse to get out of all the media stuff for the weekend 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,882 ✭✭✭This is it


    Just missed it, saw him walking into the garage. How bad is the car?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Thais a pity. I wonder will he miss next weeks race too. I hope he recovers fully. My brother in law recently had covid. Its no joke and certainly not fake. .

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    It'll be a missed lunch for the mechanics anyway - lost the rear and went in sideways.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    That's somewhat unfair to Kubica. He overcame adversity and realised his ambition to drive again in F1. He brought sponsorship but there are many "pay" drivers out there. Williams chose to employ him. His performances were, well, not rank bad compared to his exceptionally good team mate and the car was a complete lemon. Latifi has not proven to be a significant upgrade. Let's wish him the best of luck this weekend. This may well be his last ever drive in F1.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,703 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    That turn 3 is some corner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,665 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    The car is still in pieces, not long left at this stage.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,703 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    And that corner seems like it’s going to maybe cost Ferrari having two cars in qualifying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,665 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,703 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Ah December 2019 when the world hadn’t even heard of covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,665 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    That was a good watch that,

    A very American feel to the track in places - let us hope it delivers!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    Simon Lazenby looks a bit rough today. His eyes are in bits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,703 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Let’s hope it only feels like America and not in reality so we don’t get a 2005 repeat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,703 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Well from those camera shots in the car he looked like his life was flashing before his eyes and he wasn't liking what he saw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,300 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Great to have Nico Rosberg back on Sky.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,703 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    If max gets on pole here. There’ll be some crowd reaction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,703 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    And Jenson button on commentary which is an added bonus.



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