Boosters

Its not meaningless

Almost 400 deaths in 60+ years old should be impossible from a vaccine that’s 95% efficacious and 99% preventing hospitalisation

There is roughly 1.2 million over 60s vaccinated in Israel

At 95% efficacious only 60,000 of them should be able to get symptomatic covid and only 600 can end up in hospital with 99% preventing hospitalisation

400 dying should be impossible or vaccines are not 95% efficacious and 99% preventing hospitalisation

How many hospitalisations have Israel had in the vaccinated over 60s ?

I'm assuming nearly 100% are fully vaccinated, because I'm only looking at vaccinated deaths

Isreal has a population of 9,000,000, 15% are over 60

So should be 1,3750,000 over 60 in Israel, I used 1,200,000 as I'm assuming nearly every over 60 in Isreal is vaccinated

See the problem with the Pfizer trials is very obvious and it's a big problem.

They got 95% efficacious at preventing symptomatic infection and 99% preventing hospitilisation, because they took it from an open demographic off all ages, it was an average from all the trialists regardless of age.

Which is maybe correct if all humans are the same, but 20,30,40,50 years old that would be asymptomatic and would rarely end up in hospital are not the same as old people over 60,70,80 etc

I would like to see the efficacious and hospitilsation figures from Pfizers trial on old frail people

Because I do believe 95% efficacious and 99% prevent hospital is possible in under 50's who are healthy, but not a chance that's happening now in the real world with over 60's that are not healthy

Example 1

95% efficacious and 99% prevent hospital vaccine ( as Pfizer claimed from trials )

10,000 nursing home residents who are old and frail

Put Covid in the air, expose those 1000 residents

1000/95/99 = 1 nursing home resident that ends up in hospital

Example 2

95% efficacious and 99% prevent hospital vaccine ( as Pfizer claimed from trials )

10.000 college students, 18 -23 years old.

Put Covid in the air, expose those 1000 students

10,000/95/99 = 1 student ends up in hospital

Does that look correct you? 1 resident in hospital after 10,000 of them exposed to virus :)

I believe the Student one is for sure, very possible result, the nursing home one, lol :)

Pfizer and the vaccine data tricked everyone, should have been demagraphic results of nursing home aged people or old people with co-mordities data given as end result, the young people in trial masked the real effictiveness ( the people that mostly die of the disease)

Old frail people are not protected at 95% efficacious and 99% prevent hospital by the vaccines ( as Pfizer claimed from trials ) not even close

1 resident in hospital after 10,000 exposed to virus, just lol

How can it not be compounded? They are 2 different things? How do they calculate it then? 99% and ignore the 95%

Example 1

10,000 nursing home residents

95% won't get symptomatic covid with the vaccine? Correct?

That's 100 people that will get symptomatic covid?Correct Where does the 99% fit in there?

Of those 100 people infected, they have a 99% chance of not ending up in hospital thanks to the vaccine training the body to fight it.

100/99% = 1 person in hospital

Do your example please with that 95 and 99 independent

10,000 residents exposed to virus like I did, I'm intersted to see the results

If your familiar with that stuff

Can you do my example please

Trial data say 95% efficacy at preventing symptomatic infection and 99% prevent hospitalisations

10,000 people are exposed to covid

How many end up in hospital?

Should be easy

Your saying all the 10,000 are infected?

That's a case hospitilsation rate of 1% then if 10,000 = 100, makes sense as NPHET said in there documents 1% CHR was what they expected from cases in fully vaccinated population

We had a case hospitilisation rate of 4.5% pre vaccines eg

10,000 = 450 in hospital

Doing them indepedently

95% effiacy with 10,000 = 500 infected

99% prevent hospitilsation once infected with 10,000 = 100 in hospital

That still doesn't explain why you wouldn't compound them?

10,000 people ( 95% efficacy)

500 get infected

1% CHR as your provided me with 100 figure

500/1%

= 5 end up in hospital

That still means we can expose 10,000 people to Covid in a nursing home and 5 will end up in hospital

Does it not?

Does that look realistic? :)