Katherine Zappone Envoy Gig

skimpydoo · 06-09-2021 11:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856291#Comment_117856291

FG supporters have yet to say on here what Leo did last weekend looks bad as he did not give 2 books about the optics.

How bad do FG have to get before their cheerleaders turn on them.

joebloggs32 · 06-09-2021 11:41pm

Thank god that Micheal Martin didn't put his foot down and stop this appointment when it was landed on him.

Imagine all the fun we'd have missed out on wstching Fine Gael squirm!

Perhapa Martin was playing the long game afterall.....

smurgen · 06-09-2021 11:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856303#Comment_117856303

It's turning into a cult. Similar dynamic to what happened with Trump and the Republicans.

Floppybits · 06-09-2021 11:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856303#Comment_117856303

I have asked that question for a while. How right minded people can defend them is beyond me?

jmcc · 06-09-2021 11:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856344#Comment_117856344

Nah. The useless Martin just commissioned a report on it. :) Seriously though, FF needs to get rid of the spineless FG wannabe Martin.

Regards...jmcc

Strumms · 06-09-2021 11:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117854841#Comment_117854841

She’s absolutely grim, the absolute smell of sense of entitlement off her... I have zero respect for her or Covney / Donohoe too.

She was Minister for Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth of Ireland..what qualifies her for that ?

she never had children.
she is about as far from ‘youth’ being closer to the grave then the cradle
her idea of equality is for her and ilk to get looked after and receive preferential treatment and consideration....

Floppybits · 06-09-2021 11:51pm

What is the hold that Zappone has over FG?

Strumms · 07-09-2021 12:00am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856380#Comment_117856380

She’s got long arms whatever that hold is seeing as she’s now living in New York...weird though.

Covney too has been outed as an absolute liar... talking with Zappone about the UN Envoy gig before there even was one...

Muahahaha · 07-09-2021 12:09am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856266#Comment_117856266

wow yeah great point. There were several days back in February where we had over 100 Covid deaths per day, it was a really dark time. Yet all Zappone could think about was how to get back on the gravy train and get her nose back in the trough.

Just listened back to the Drive Time segment on the story again and it really is a fantastic piece of radio. Trained barrister and FG TD Neale Richmond tries to spin and blag his way out of the story but he gets schooled and skewered over and over again by Sarah McInerney. Well worth a listen for those who missed it

https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22001738/

markodaly · 07-09-2021 1:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117855104#Comment_117855104

This.

Forget the banal noise from the usual crew, because if they were consistent, they would be up in arms about all the other special UN envoys that were appointed, yet probably cant name one of them.

It's clear that this position was appointed historically on the whim of the SG of the Department of Foreign Affairs and the Minister, which no one had an issue with at all until it was Zappone.

A better process in the future will be put in place to stop the usual howls of outrage every time someone in the Department lifts a finger.

markodaly · 07-09-2021 2:05am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117854436#Comment_117854436

Not really part of this thread, but all I raised was the question as to a) why the musical tastes of a politician are political discourse and b) why it's 'funny' to find that Leo likes Kylie Minogue.

(a) it not relevant to ANY discussion

(b) I have already pointed out my thoughts on that.

As I said, a small bit of reflection may not go astray.

Aska · 07-09-2021 2:12am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117855067#Comment_117855067

It's hard to know why the usual suspects seem to feel a desire to throw themselves on the grenade at times.

Others include:

Colm Brophy, Kieran O'Donnell, Jack Chambers (M.I.A.) & Neale. Maybe they are blindsided loyal while above them it's a Loyal to No-one motto

jmcc · 07-09-2021 5:36am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117855978#Comment_117855978

It was conduct unbecoming for an FGer. He tried the usual politician's trick of talking over the interviewer but it was a big mistake. Sarah McInerney is a journalist rather than a jumped up DJ. She absolutely obliterated him and left him looking quite stupid. FG does seem to be sending out eager cannon fodder over the last few weeks. It isn't so much a case of lions being led by donkeys as a bunch of asses who have been caught rotten. In any other country, Varadkar, Coveney and Harris would have been fired long ago. Luckily for them, they have a weak, grovelling FG wannabe leading FF. But Martin's days may be numbered too.

Regards...jmcc

Dempo1 · 07-09-2021 6:42am

What a beautiful Morning.

Will it be Granola , Weetabix, Perhaps Porridge for Breakfast 😏

One thing for Sure a spot of TOAST would be nice.

I suspect some Politicians might need an extra bit of extra Fibre at breakfast this morning 😏

tabby aspreme · 07-09-2021 6:52am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856617#Comment_117856617

I'd reckon they'd be avoiding the fibre at all costs

Dempo1 · 07-09-2021 6:57am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856629#Comment_117856629

Thought it might help some "stiffen resolve" so to speak 😉 😏

FrancieBrady · 07-09-2021 8:28am

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It's not so much the appointment (although it had a right bang of the crony off it and now we know it probably was) it is the cover up that is doing the main damage, just like Profumo, Watergate and so many other scandals that originate in the Arrogance Of Power.

Had Coveney and Varadkar been able to lie straight in the bed about this seedy little stunt they could have avoided this...it would be over.

But nope, lie on lie, arrogant behaviour after arrogant behaviour.

Story broke on the 4th of August and on the 7th Sept Coveney faces his darkest hour and the story rages away at the topof news bulletins.

Will he have the humility to put it to bed, will he survive politically, will he drag others into it?

Tune into the FG Nothing Burger Show later on.

jmcc · 07-09-2021 8:33am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856755#Comment_117856755

Think that Donohue was trying to distance himself from the mess.FG seems to be rolling out z-listers to defend it.

Regards...jmcc

07-09-2021 8:42am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856363#Comment_117856363

Try educating yourself before posting such tripe. She set up An Cosan, scene of the infamous Jobstown incident. https://www.ancosan.ie/

FrancieBrady · 07-09-2021 8:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856766#Comment_117856766

Neale Richmond was so monumentally bad he was the story for a while. Barry Ward looked like he was going to spontaneously combust last night too.

The abiding impression from TD's and fans is the huff about being caught. They can't believe that they would be held accountable for stuff like this, watch and listen to the pain on Coveney's face and in his voice as he tries to explain this...again. The pain of somebody who cannot grasp why he is in the ****. While Varadkar is like a bold child, nonchalantly sitting in the corner, blaming everyone else while probing his proboscis.

Dempo1 · 07-09-2021 8:58am

It's like the calm before the storm, have been listening to Morning Ireland, pretty limp coverage generally, a little known independent senator (on the foreign affairs committee) spoke briefly, he certainly has many questions to ask and seemed to suggest other ministers might called in to explain themselves, most notably, Pascal.

Seems no one from FFG available to talk this morning, any wonder I suppose after yesterday's extraordinarily bad media performances.

jmcc · 07-09-2021 8:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856790#Comment_117856790

It is certainly looking bad for Coveney, Varadkar and Martin. There's a reluctance to defend Coveney. Richmond probably wishes by now that he had one of the ordinary RTE types interviewing him instead of Sarah McInerney. Didn't see the Barry Ward appearance. Think that the committee meeting is live this morning.

Regards...jmcc

Dempo1 · 07-09-2021 9:07am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856845#Comment_117856845

All excellent observations but I think MM had rather prematurely defended Coveney 🤔 over the weekend, seemed to think (bizzarely) there's been an over reaction generally. Now he's tongue twisted and perhaps feeling quite the fool after yesterday's revelations, just my own observation but had he stayed Quite (I know not easy), FG would have had to get out of this mess alone whilst FF smelling of roses as FG implode, just seems to me MM, jumped the gun a little and in essence dragged himself and FF into this debacle 🤔

McMurphy · 07-09-2021 9:10am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856415#Comment_117856415

Holy smoke. Only managed to listen to that this morning on my drive into work, poor auld Neale, sent out to defend the indefensible, and gutted like a kipper.

Really should stick to photoshopping his head onto story's about the Kinihan gang.

jmcc · 07-09-2021 9:13am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856873#Comment_117856873

Martin is very much a beta male. He's not a leader. That's why FG can run ring around him. He acts like an FGer rather than an FFer and the FFers seem to be running out of patience with him. Coveney should go and so should Varadkar and Martin. The problem is that unless there is simultaneous regime change in FF and FG, there will be no movement and the FFG crony coalition will continue to lose support. There's also that decision on whether or not to prosecute Varadkar over the leaks that has to be made soon. The cabinet leaks have yet to be considered.

Regards...jmcc