Murder at the Cottage | Sky

But it's not an assumption, he literally says he had it verified multiple times that Sophie would go outside if there was a noise. I'm not sure what your point is regarding seeing and identifying, it's not a hard thing to imagine. Making a noise and someone coming outside, I'd imagine it's a pretty well used technique for shootings and hits etc. It's not exactly Unabomber levels of sophistication.

Isn't it pretty much the same technique Ian Bailey would have applied if he's the killer? Knock on the door or make noise and wait for her to come out.

How was Bill Fuller able to confirm that Bailey and Jules left the house before noon on the morning of the murder?

Camier I understand, but I can't see how Fuller would know.

"Saffron THOMAS made a statement saying that Ian BAILEY and her mother had left in the morning as confirmed by Bill FULLER and James CAMIER

thereby confirming that Jules THOMAS was within close proximity of the crime scene at 11 am

and that between 11.30 am and 12.00 pm she told James CAMIER that Ian BAILEY was busy covering the murder of the French woman."

He made a statement that he was driving, I think he was delivering christmas trees, around the Toormore area at 11am and saw JT driving down the road from Sophie's house towards Kealfadda Bridge. He said that as she drove over a bump she leaned over as if to stop something on the passenger seat from falling off. She then turned towards Goleen.

James Camier said he spoke to JT in Goleen around 11am, she bought vegetables and she told him about a murder 'on the west side'.

After arrest one of her statements apparently say she did drive past the scene at 11am and then on to Goleen.

Her daughter said they both left the house that morning for over an hour.

But presumably her could verify it because he was there at the time. Very different thing for a woman on her own in a remote cottage, no matter how 'ballsy' she wasm generally. For a 'professional' hitman you're taking a massive chance she won't just ring the guards when she hears someone poking about outside her house.

They sent her a legal letter because she was proven to be lying about intimidation. She phoned in a complaint against Bailey at the wrong time she was supposed to, and Bailey was with Frank Buttimer at the time she alleged the incident happened. More than fair to send a legal letter in that incidence.

The person who claimed MF said she was going to benefit financially was a teenager.

Marie Farrell said the man across the shop was 5 foot 8 and of sallow skin, she was then coached to say he was 5 foot 10 or 11 because IB was 6 foot 4 in height.

She was a teenager at the time she worked for Marie Farrell.

That's not true, she said the person she saw was no taller than her husband Chris. Who was 5 foot 8. Gardai then led her towards adding a couple of more inches on and tried to round up to 5 10 or 5 11. She also got in touch with senior Guards in the country to say she was being pressured into giving evidence and they ignored her.

The legal threat came when IB could produce receipts for the time MF said he was intimidating her quite a distance away from where he actually was.

She was a little girl when she made her communion, that doesn’t change the fact that when she had the alleged conversation with MF about the civil case she was in her 20s at least.

I judge anything MF said after her conversion with skepticism for all the reasons given above, everything she said about gardai pressuring or cajoling her to say he was tall came after that.

So they concluded that a completely discredited witness's statements were factual.

Sounds like a fair trial alright......

A few interesting scenario's posted today..

Two items not debated:

1) The Murderer: Bailey, Hitman, Knicker Sniffer, Breaking Bad Alfie, Horney Gard....Ect. Whoever committed this brutal slaying, didn't leave one scrap of evidence behind them.... Considering it was a blood bath, it's beyond comprehension that nothing of any relevance was left at the crime scene..

We assume it was a frenzied attack - More the reason to leave hair, blood, fibres after you... Yet nothing, not one iota of anything. Odd isn't it???

Was this really a professional hit?? Highly unlikely, until you realise not one incriminating piece of evidence was found...? How many blind rage killers could pull that one off??

2) The Protector(s): The murderer came home soaked in blood, make no mistake about that. When the news broke the following day of the brutal murder of a French National, somebody.. A Wife, A Mother, A Sister, A Brother knew their next of kin was missing that night, maybe helped them clean up, maybe destroyed some incriminating evidence...

Regardless - Somebody else knew, or at the very least has their suspicions.

What about the German man who was living about a mile or from Sophie's house? I remember reading that he had previously been violent towards his partner - she left him and he was living in the house on his own. So nobody to see if he came home in bloodied clothes..

If I remember correctly he had been playing music in Crookhaven that night...maybe he went home but could not settle?? Maybe he had taken drink or drugs that night? Decided to make a trip to Alfie to buy weed? Could it have been as random an encounter?! He chanced his arm with her, she told him to get lost - he was furious and grabbed something close to hand to hurt her.. Completely lost it - possibly out of his mind on alcohol/drugs/ losing his partner through his own stupidity/being far from home and unhappy.. He might have been messing around the gate and she walked out to confront him - ask him what he was doing there? Do we know if he drove a blue Ford fiesta?!

He committed suicide early in 1997.. I believe in Germany.

Did the Guards ever interview him?? Do we know any more about him?

Hang on a minute, the German guy was having an affair with Sophie and had no alibi for the night she was murdered?

He left a note saying he had done something terrible?

He lived close by?

I'm no Sherlock Holmes but surely he should be suspect number one?

"Officers have been accused of not pursuing other lines of inquiry. One man, in an extra-marital relationship with Sophie, was named in a 2001 DPP report.

The German national committed suicide. He left a note saying: “I have done something terrible.”"

Yep. Pure attention seeker.

If you listen to the West Cork podcast she says she saw a note taped to the counter in Bandon Garda Station to keep 'Fiona' on the phone if she called back (obviously to trace the call).

Next thing she calls back from her house phone.

It's over half a mile to the end of the lane, so only a couple of houses in Dunmanus would be within a mile by road.

If it's as the crow flies then it's a different story, Kealfada bridge is a mile away .

So the German man is Karl Wolney.. I had never heard he had an affair of any sort with her though? Perhaps more irresponsible reporting.. But was he interviewed by Guards? And could they definitely rule him out? Or were they so blinkered in their determination to prove it was Bailey that this Wolney went under the radar?

Well that trail seems to be stone cold. If he was the culprit I can't see how any more evidence will ever come to light.