To Mask or not to two - Mask Megathread cont.

Ah, do you see an end to covid?

Maybe you should get onto Dr Mike Ryan of the WHO with your questions and complaints. He too is saying masks are staying.

It’s a good thing that he’s not making Government policy.

I’m not “refusing” to see the relevance of anything. If you have something to say about why the behaviour of others is relevant to a point I was making then by all means, explain it.

As for the rest of your post, I’m not going to attempt to justify how I feel to you nor am I going to walk you through my medical history. You’ve shifted the discussion from the original claim made which is that a mask is just like any other item of clothing. It is not. It is a restriction imposed to serve a purpose. That purpose is rapidly disappearing as vaccines do their job. I used myself only to illustrate that some of us have done everything required throughout the pandemic but have nevertheless suffered from this restriction. That was clearly a mistake as you’ve moved from discussing why you think masks should be mandatory despite widespread vaccination and minimal risk to the health service to an attempt to get me to justify my emotional reactions to a restriction that I am arguing is no longer relevant.

Interesting to see the banned list is a who's who of posters from the conspiracy theory forum. Strong correlation between anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists, almost a perfect overlap.

So what do you want? No face masks and for someone to self diagnose themselves with having allergies and going around spreading covid? Maybe go back to the pre-covid times and go into work sick.

This is one sneaky virus with some people saying it felt like allergies, while others end up sick in hospital. There's no going back to what we were used to before covid.

Lol who goes to shops and shopping centres for hours? Unless of course you are employed there.

Edit: Would you mind to tell me more about media driven hysteria and turbo charged flu please?

How noble of you. Just an illustration it is, so.

BTW your use of words and thought pattern reflect not a genuine person who has suffered from masks as a non pharmaceutical intervention.

You are aggressive and frankly refuse to engage on the topic. Rather than share your thoughts you make snide remarks and disregard my experience because what, it doesn’t fit with the narrative you’ve decided on? I’d hoped to get some understanding of why someone would want to continue the mask mandate post-vaccinations but it’s pretty clear that you’re only interested in picking a fight. I’m not interested.

It's a challenge for politicians to interpret what scientists tell them.

It's also a challenge to find the middle ground between following scientists and political self interest.

If politicians in Spain recommend outdoor masking, the only thing it means for us is that politicians in Ireland are better at understanding and following scientific advice.

It's also crucial that, by being overly cautious, politicians in Spain are doing no harm - as opposed to the idiots in the US, who want to create as many outbreaks in schools as possible with their anti-science policy - in part - as in Florida - so the wife of the politician in charge can make a better profit with her shares in Covid medication when more people fall ill.

I suppose I wasn't clear. It's not your tone that's the problem. You're being a jerk. You won't discuss your own thoughts on masks post-vaccination and why you think masks should remain. You disregard anyone's reasons for wanting to be rid of masks with passive aggressive crap like "How noble of you". You've spent this entire exchange talking about me instead of the topic at hand.

Honestly, I'm done talking to you. You're either trolling or have a chip on your shoulder about this topic so large it makes you lash out at anyone who doesn't already agree with you. Enjoy the beautiful evening.

the situation is not going to improve any further

Yes, it is going to improve further. Over 31 million vaccine doses are still administered globally every single day.

Sure, Ireland is in a good place - we're in the world's top 10 for the share of people vaccinated in the population. But it's still ongoing, and it is a global pandemic, it won't be over till it's under control everywhere. And it's an evolving situation, with new variants appearing daily (perfectly normal for virus evolution..). Approval process for age 12 and under - probably with reduced vaccine doses - still ongoing.

So, I agree with the positive outlook in general, including likely ending of mask mandates for vaccinated as a part of the phasing out of the non-pharmaceutical measures. But we're not quite there yet.

Far from it. BTW I havn't lashed out at you, your making a lot of presumptions, none of them are correct.