Beef price tracker 2

Probably very close to the ton I'd guess 940 kgs in or around

If you say so I reckon he was over the 900 kg but sure we will soon know 😉

Indeed but we can just ask as there will be a kill docket ...

Cattle are not live weighted into a factory. DW only at present. All you get on the kill docket is the DW. I suspect that Whelan wants an idea of the LW to compare what the animal would make in the mart. She already stated that as the bull was cross she could not shop around for prices and got a poor factory price. Friesan bullocks kill 46-49% compared to fresh weight but that would be 49-52% compared to mart weight. Them heavy AA bulls would definately grade R+ and into U straight off grass as they would fatten on grass. That would indicate 54-55% and maybe higher compared to mart weight. They weight 52% compared to fresh weight

If there is flesh on a bull marts seem to be very competitive at present especially if you he bull is below a three year old

Any quotes for bullocks for next week?

Got the same quote today. Have a load going next week.

I wouldn’t be expecting a rise this time of the year as strange and all as the year is. There will be plenty of cattle coming fit in the next couple of weeks and coming to 30 months. Cattle are flying this past two weeks.

The pressure is starting to come on, I know a man that had good r grade angus bullocks, he sent them off This week, he told me he got 4.60 flat, he had a few agents this week ringing looking for cattle

Got rid of a few during the week. They were all within 2 weeks of 30 months and 3- to 3= in the fat. I’d have liked to hold onto them for another month because they’d have held plenty more weight but grass can disappear in a couple of days here when the weather turns so it was time to thin them out.

Still have a good few overage lads and under30 month cattle to go but I’m in no panic for another month.

Those tall black FR peak at u21 months with meal, I find.

The Friesian graded O=3+ he slaughtered shy of 360 kgs and grossed slightly under 1500 euro. The HE was disappointing, he hung under 310kgs at O+4- and grossed 1325. The Fr was 400kgs cost 600, the HE was about 350kgs, cost 680 and came in a month after the Friesian.

Friesians are besting HE and AA by about 100 euro on the margin this year at a guess

I would be finding it the other away around, bit disappointed with how the FR's are killing out killing O- and P+ when you add the AA / HE and QA bonus to the HE and AA cattle they are beating the FRs plus the FRs are probably killing 50% LW at best, the AA's & HE's are probably killing 52 - 53%. Now there has been no meal fed to anything so overall I am very happy with my returns this year but looking at it going forward I think the FRs are on a yellow card. Have a few CH out of FRs cows which I am really happy with, might get more of these if I can pick them up at €2.20/kg or less.

There could be an argument that AA's & HE's cost more the first day to buy, but you are making it back as they are easier to feed, grade better on killing and kill out a higher percentage of their live weight. So if you look at it the better kill out % weight and the better conversion of feed to beef covers the additional cost that you pay day 1, then the better grade and bonus is the additional profit. I notice during the winter I would have 14 (400 - 500 kg) cattle in a pen. A pen of FR's will eat two 5ft grabs of silage a day where as 3 grabs will do 2 pens of AA's & HE or my own bred Lm's.

If you are give €2 - €2.20 per kg for your AAx & Hex at circa 400 Kgs day 1 then you could need to be buying the FR's at sub €1.50 /kg. This is a bit insulting to the lad that reared them to this stage and he most defiantly will not be making any money.

Anto just one thing on your pricing of AA/HE and FR stores. For the the man producing them from calves generally FR will out weight AA/HE by 50+kgs and the HE wi out weight AA by 20-30kgs. For a lad producing like for like in his system and he FR will be 480 kgs, the HE will be 430 and the AA 410kgs at sale

The Friesian will gross 720@,1.5/ kg and give him a calf price of 70 on average he will leave 650

The HE will gross 946 at 2.2/ kg give a calf price of 270 leaves a margin of 676.

The AA will gross 902 at 2.2/ kg and giving a calf price of 200 he leave a margin of 700.

There is not much difference there. However FR that are over 450 kgs attract a premium I'm the mart compared to those under 450 so I expect they be hitting 1.6-1.7/ kg so lad producing them at that weight is making more off them than off similarly reared AA/ HE.

At present store and ration costs anybody planning on wintering cattle will need a a base of 4.6-4.7/ kg to make money