Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

It is never long before the homophobic references arrive around here when Leo's name is invoked. What does it matter what taste in music he has?

They are your words blanch, I just find it interesting that your bedfellows are the Irish far right. And you still haven't explained how Higgins, a man who has spent his entire life fighting for social justice caused damage to humanity. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and you have provided none, instead preferring to throw out slurs on a persons character without being able to back it up. That's some standards blanch, maybe take a look in the mirror before you fall off that high horse.

'Somebody else made me say it', isn't really an excuse.

What in the bejaysus bearing does this have on anything?

As much as it pains me to defend Varadkar, who he sleeps with and what music he listens to would be somewhere around the absolute bottom of the list of things to judge him on as a politician. I'm all for criticising the cronyism, the leaking, the talking out of both sides of his mouth....but who gives a f*ck if he listens to sh*te music and likes his partner to have swinging bits? Why should he have to hide it away to the extent that he has to, "let it out" once a year?!

It completely undermines legitimate criticism of Leo, as can be seen by one of his usual supporters jumping in and using your nonsensical post to dismiss all of the other criticism he faces.

I'm not sure how much of it is subconscious versus how much is very intentional (I'd find it very difficult to call the post I responded to subconscious homophobia), though I do think certain posters overstate how common it is and use it to deflect from legitimate criticism at times.

I'll share your eye rolling at the concept of homophobia as banter though.

Not surprising, it's been a tough week for FG supporters, they need to let off some steam.

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I asked this before, but what relevance are his musical tastes to any discussion?

The stock answer is that its 'funny'. Remember that poster who posted under an account named after his gay partner? That was supposed to be 'funny' too.

Criticise Leo away, but leave his personal life and his tastes out of it.

It's not homophobic to point out how 'flamboyant' the concert he went to is!

It is clear that he has to suppress aspects of his personality to be successful.

But if we aren't allowed to be amused by the whole thing than he should be sacked. If we aren't allowed to just write the whole thing off because of some possibly misplaced sympathy for Varadkar than the whole thing is a shocking example of someone who has the right wing attitude to the law:

There are some whom the law BINDS but does NOT protect

There are some whom the law PROTECTS but does not BIND

Blueshirtism bluntly is about hierarchy. The cause to which Varadkar has devoted his life is about ensuring that those on the bottom stay on the bottom and those on the top stay on the top.

It's profoundly evil and considered as a politician that is the only way in which one could describe Varadkar. 'Evil'.

I suppose that the internalised homophobia must have twisted him in all directions.

I think I need to go shower.....I'm finding myself fully agreeing with you, Mark. First time for everything I suppose.

Criticising Varadkar for trying to use his position to schmooze with Kylie is entirely valid.....criticism of Varadkar because he happens to like Kylie (with the, 'haha, he's a poof' undertones implied therein) isn't. I don't think it is too hard to differentiate between the two.

What's wrong with laughing at somebody's musical tastes, exactly?

I laughed at my late mother's musical taste (Daniel O'Donnell) and my brothers. (Bjork and Queen :))

The Leo fans are over protective, charming but kinda silly too.