Vaccine Megathread No 2 - Read OP before posting

Has anyone come across an estimate for the number of people being advised not to take the vaccine? I'd imagine it's less than 1% of the population but I'm just guessing.

(Advised by nphet or the hse or whoevers remit it comes under, not Facebook or a medium)

If we did what you suggest, then such people would get a vaccine which may not be recognised in the country where they are living.

Also, I think you seriously underestimate the number of Irish citizens living abroad, most of whom have never lived here.

As I said. You or they can come get it should you choose it's available.

That's not for me to decide. That's for the health authorities. I support their process.

You claim the small population should make this easier, but I would beg to differ. In order to make such an initiative truly worthwhile, there needs to be a critical mass of recipients able to avail of it, and a larger country will typically have more emigrants (as opposed to those entitled to citizenship who may never have set foot in the country) in that position.

Even a simple matter like avoiding wastage of doses from not fully administering the contents of a vial once opened is more difficult when operating in small numbers.

I'm not clear if the OP is actually in this situation?

But it's irrelevant. Even if the Irish government decided this was something worth doing, it's neither legally nor logistically feasible.

A workaround of some kind could be found for people who ended up taking a local vaccine if that's what people want. More flexibility with the passport would probably be the easiest thing.

The last 18 months have shown that people don't care how impractical something is, they're just going to do it if that's what they want to do. Lockdowns aren't practical but we had three of them. So why refuse to support some kind of workaround for a few people who are in a jam?

I'm not sure where you would start in terms of raising the issue OP. Writing to Department of Foreign Affairs and TDs perhaps?

Lol ? Our authorised vacines are decided by the drug authority not by Michael Martin. I don't need to lend moral support to the OP they have already indicated they are covered by Astra so I'm not even sure why they are so concerned. And yes I lay trust in the medical professionals in this country to look out for the well being of our citizens. But hey that's just me ...

Quick cheat guide for anyone paying attention:

Something you want to see happen = essential / mandatory / 'The virus is forcing our hand. We have no choice in the matter.'

Something you don't want to see happen = 'blah blah logistical nightmare couldn't possibly happen too difficult blah'

Please use this cheat guide wisely.

Traditional Irish blessing:

May all your bureaucratic obfuscations be taken at face value and your directives adhered to.

Could you link a report about how France are doing it?

I can't see how it is possible so would be good to have a reference.

Health bodies and medical committees don't decide issues, elected representatives do. That's why I put health authorities in inverted commas because you seem to be imputing to them an authority they don't have.

'The authorities' in common parlance means people with power, like the police or the Government. There are no 'health authorities' in the sense of doctors or medical scientists who can decide political issues themselves. Though that line has been blurred a bit by the way in which the Government have elevated NPHET in order to use them as a political shield

Er btw you don't represent 'doctors' or 'hospitals' in any way, and your confusing stance on where political authority is located has nothing to do with medical science or medicine per se.

If I go home after two Vero Cell, and must get revaccinated in order to be able to live my life,

What makes you think you would have to do this?