Mayo GAA Discussion

Think Joanne really said "O'Shigh" - wouldn't get too carried away with it.

Bit harsh blaming Horan, he was the messiah after the Dublin win. Should have changed underperforming players sooner, but there was little he could do in the closing stages, he hadn't a McShane or Canavan on the bench. Think that's it for the older brigade and may take Mayo a few years to rise again. Scoring forwards just don't grow on trees.

Reminds of a minor kerfuffle many moons ago when Eileen Dunne introduced an item about a naked street performer (or somesuch) at the Galway Arse Festival

I felt from early in the year this was the the best Mayo team I had seen in my time going to games. In hindsight were we lulled into a false sense of greatness? Standing back and looking at it now we came to that view after 30 minutes against Galway and 20 minutes against Dublin but I dont know what to think after that. I said it weeks ago the only way to beat Tyrone is to get stuck in from the start. You have to out fight them for possession, exert severe pressure. Mayo done that early on and just stopped. When you push up on them and exert pressure like Dublin done previously they dont handle it well and are forced to play ball and I still believe man for man Mayo have a better team. Today from 15/20 minutes Tyrone dictated just about everything. What I have seen over the years from playing Tyrone club sides and watching their county teams they get the maximum out of what it at their disposal. Well prepared, well drilled and great skills. Underestimate them at your peril.

There were 2 areas I feel cost Mayo today.

1) I think Mayo didnt get Diarmuid O'Connor or Kevin McLoughlin on the ball enough early in the game, its what they thrive on. Even had they dropped them deeper they are key figures and it would have let Durkan go forward more but they are so influential it would have been great for the team to help build momentum.

2) I wouldnt have played Aidan O'Se and said so earlier in this thread. He slows down Mayo and I just think they are better without him. Maybe as an impact sub?

While the game has changed there is still basics like quick ball into the forwards which is key. When Mayo done this they won possession or got a free. The fact they did play A.O'S why was ball not pumped into him? He needs to be lucky once, (like McShane was) the back has to be lucky all the time. He won a few frees because Tyrone struggled to cope with his size. Instead they were fckn around giving Tyrone time to build their wall and then tried to play through it. Madness. Carrying the ball into contact can be ok but not when surrounded by 2 or 3 opposing players. O'Se actually received the ball inside his 20m line twice in second half and he simply doesn't have the engine for that. (Kerry are same with David Moran)

I wouldnt fault either the goal miss or the penalty miss. The penalty was well hit and the keeper was well beaten. 2 inches and he was a hero. Ruane was unlucky to to get Red. He was baited and bit. Dont know if anyone else spotted it but Tyrone done this just after half time on D. O'C and a few others as well.

Where to now? This squad will win an All-Ireland in next 2/3 years. The players are there as it is. People cant blame Horan for today as it was errors on the field that cost the team. There has to be a few scars there and Im not sure who will call it a day. I think Lee Keegan is the one I would be looking to to lead the team or Paddy Durkan. I dont see a place for A.O'Se going forward.

I havent changed my mind on my view of this Mayo side because of today. I think they are top class and hope they can reach the summit and collect Sam sooner rather than later.

Either way rest up and look forward to 2022. #StaySafe

Jese I've only came on here cos I've had a few drinks (it feels like looking up your exes profile on facebook, you know you want to have a look but you're not gonna like what you see!).

I dunno how I feel. Very disconsolate, I really thought it was our year def worse than I've felt after other years. I thought we would come out at half time and start running at them, we did it sporadically but didnt do it enough. I thought we had the running game, tactician, players to beat that team. The last time I've felt like this was after the semi in 19.

But the good thing is that the last time.i felt like this was in 19. I thought this team was gone in 2019. But theyre back and better since then. We are still in at least the top 5 counties in the country and dublin and Kerry thankfully arent as good as they've been made out to me. I was also talking to some people from another county tonight who wonder how we can be producing team after team after team. We will be back, that team owes us nothing. We will more than likely be playing again in august, let's look forward to it and hope aidan orme and darren McHale get into the s&c over the winter!!

Absolutely devastating defeat to lose that, as bad as walk out of Croke Park that I can remember. Wish I was turning the car West last night with the rest of the crew but instead had the sole journey down the M7. Its one where never really got going. Credit to Tyrone, they executed their game plan to a tee and had the forwards to finish off their chances. Even saying that, if we had taken the big chances when they came we would have been in with a shout. Lost the one on one battles all over the field all day and still have the same frailties under the high ball at the back. It was infuriating that McShane was just on the pitch and that happened, surely we knew that was coming.

Fair play to ROD he tried all bloody day,was the only real focal point in attack. Still done a couple of silly things and missed the penalty but can't really fault him. Leeroy was excellent too.

As other have said Cillian was hugely missed, having him there to win primary ball and link the play cant be understated. Feel for O'Shea will get dogs abuse after another poor display but in reality I don't know where he fits in anymore. He's not a full forward and that has to stop now and he doesn't appear to have the legs in midfield to match the top teams.

A lot is being said of Horan too. I find it hard to buy 100% into that, who was he suppose to spring from the bench to fix 10+ players individually underperforming. We can talk about systems but some of the individual displays and mistakes just can't be accounted for. He was the Messiah after the Dublin game and is now back to being under prepared and tactically inept. For me he's unearthed another championship contending team out of nowhere, not sure who else could have done that in that timescale.

Any congrats to Tyrone they were certainly worthy winners. The Mayo support there yesterday was phenomenal, all pure mad passionate lunatics. We'll go again as we always do and we'll have another bite at the cherry in the not too distant future.

Poor performance in the game. Oshea wasnt as bad as people are making out though. He was actually marginally better than many of his team mates, who arent getting any mention. Too much made of him truth be told. He didnt play well, neither did the tyrone captain by the way. People should try to be a bit more objective about him.

We were very poor, but saying that, tyrone couldnt put us away either. We were limping along for 50 minutes and still in the game. I feel oconnor was a seismic loss for this game, and if we had him and barrett, we could well have stolen it. Not sure why Harrison wasnt introduced to mark McCurry. I feel the line was poor throughout

Don't know what to say. It was a very winnable game. But we were brain dead from the off.

Tyrone managed the game well a d deserved to win.

Midfield were appalling. Did they catch a ball all day?

What a load of **** shite.

Why on earth can't Mayo teams just for once in a final go out and play the game of their lives.

Look at Tyrone, dominated mid field when that's where they were supposed to be weak, Cathal McShane touted as a "super sub" comes on and as advertised delivers big time. Defend in numbers but then break with speed.

We never get that from Mayo when the chips are down on All Ireland final day.

Great comebacks and hard luck losses like in 2016 and 2017 just can't paper over the cracks that they just can't deliver when it's required.

This was terrible.

The one chance we had in recent years in a final that did not contain a really strong opponent and they fail to take advantage.

It's utterly depressing.

So many under par performances out there.

Credit to Tyrone they knew how to win the game, but let's be honest they are no world beaters.

I've said before here that this was an opportunity because it wasn't Dublin or Kerry in their pomp, and that if they didn't take it there was no place to hide. Well there is no place to hide now.

Days like that only give the clown from Derry fuel to his fire.

I really think it could be the end of the line for Aiden O'Shea as a starter.

All he offered yesterday was that he made it a bit messy up front and freed up a bit of space in the second quarter.

If that's the best you can get out of him on All Ireland final day then it's really time to reevaluate.

I know it's an intangible but if Cillian was playing things may have been different.

If you remember the little debate between Cora and Spillane during the Leitrim game Spillane scoffed at Cora's suggestion that Mayo would win the All Ireland, but his reasoning may have been correct, he said they would not win because they did not have Cillian.

But hey, there is always next year.

Cillian will be there, these guys are still young etc, but they really need to learn from this, they really need to build a mindset that you do not leave it behind on the big day, that coming out as the losers is not an option.

Don't think I'll be buying the papers today. Had been hopeful of hitting the pub in celebration around this time. Sport can be cruel.

This defeat hurts. And it’s one I think we’ll really come to regret quite badly. It was probably the most open championship since 2010. Certainly the most open final since then. With the big two (the Dubs and Kerry) out of the way, you have to take those chances when they come along. Too many players didn’t step up yesterday. Very wasteful with our chances. Too many bad decisions by our forwards and a general lack of composure.

Felt sorry for Keegan he was superb yesterday. Never stopped driving the team on. Time is running out for him now. Hate to think of it ending the same way for him as it did for Andy, Higgins and some others, but it’s looking likely he won’t get that elusive AI title he deserves.

I also feel sorry for Keegan. He's the best player we've ever had and it's sad to think he won't get a medal. He's the only one who showed up yesterday.

“The game was finally over in the 25th minute. Aidan O’Shea was presented with the easiest goal chance I have seen in a final. The Tyrone keeper was caught out and had left his goal empty, chasing back fearing the worst”

Absolute scutter

Conor Loftus chance when there was no keeper and a defender lying on the ground who he hit the ball at was the best chance

Followed by Conroy’s

And of course the penalty

Bit yeah Aidan o Shea’s on at an angle outside the box with a defender in the way was the easiest.