Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

Relief that it is not a double bone break, hope for the best, hopefully the news will gradually get better

He's a good lad Harvey...

Based on your pessimistic attitude and nothing else.....

Koop confirmed it’s a dislocated ankle. So he’s out for about 8 weeks at least

I may be missing something here, player was out of control, at least it looks like it, and the momentum endangers the player and results in a serious injury. For anyone to try and say this was not a red or a bad tackle, it doesn't have to be the worst tackle ever to be a red. If he stays on his feet, then Elliot doesn't get injured. But referees have been encouraging players to go in harder due to the way they are refereeing matches.

Haven't been able to find a close up or alternative angle, if they even exist, but looking at the broadcast shot again, it looks like he briefly caught Elliot's leg in a scissor motion which is what caught it in the ground and did the damage. That's a red if it is indeed what it looks like.

It doesn't need to be intentional to be daft and dangerous. I'm sure we'll be hearing about how poor Pascal Struijk is "not that type of player" for the next while.

Elliott will undergo surgery on Tuesday.

I would be absolutely delighted if that happened. But id expect them to err on the side of caution with him.

Great to get an "experts" opinion, at least it's all cleared up now thanks to DrumSteve who no doubt has at the very least a MSc in Sports Science and of course future vision to see a diagnose the scans from 2 to 4 days in the future.

Of course I could be wrong in this assumption, there is a small chance that DrumSteve is a middle age potatoe couch that makes all his assumptions from MOTD but seems "unlikely"

Yes, that's correct, I am a potato couch.

Fuckin hell, stop being so sensitive, it's a discussion forum where we're discussing Liverpool. I could be wrong, I could be right. Honestly, at the end of the day, who gives a ****.

How long would it take to eat a potato couch I wonder. Will prove to be a good 3 points yesterday

You wouldn't think that with the way toys were flying from prams here two weeks ago.

Elliott on is Instragram.

I’m of course absolutely devastated with what happened yesterday at Leeds, but have been totally overwhelmed by the love and support shown to me by the entire football world following the injury. Thank you so much to everyone who has reached out or sent messages to me and my family, it means so much to us. Also a massive thanks to everyone inside Elland Road for the reception you gave me immediately after it happened ❤️

I am now fully focused on my recovery and will give everything in my rehabilitation to be back out there as soon as I can. I know I have an incredible support network behind me at Liverpool and together we will get through this.

To all of the Liverpool fans, your support means the world to me. I’m one of you and I can’t wait to be back faster, fitter and stronger to help the team in the future.

You’ll Never Walk Alone! ❤️#HE67💎

If he hasn’t done it before then it almost certainly fractured the socket on the way out! I’ve broken it twice, most recently just 8 weeks ago, I’m only a week out of the boot as it is!

The fact he needs surgery suggests ligament damage. My experience is that I’ve no ligament damage and don’t need surgery, but it will still be Nov/Dec before I can even think about running or putting excess weight on it!

So just purely based on the timeframes I’m currently looking at with no surgery it’s about 16 weeks before I can train, cost me what was to be my last season playing rugby!

I’ve also not Liverpool’s medical staff on top of me which may cancel out the surgery Harvey needs, but I doubt we’ll see him before Jan.

The best and most important player at the club is without a doubt Fab for me.

VVD, Salah & Ali will always be credited as transformative signings however without Fab none of it ties together.

The work he gets through and does protecting the defence and letting us play the highline is amazing.

Without him you don't get Matip up in the opposition half setting up the first goal.

Without him you don't get Thiago having the freedom of controlling the tempo of the game.

Without him you don't get an 18 year old Elliott having the freedom to express himself on that pitch.

Without him you don't get the fullbacks playing like wingers.

Even by just starting Elliot in that game again yesterday showed how much faith Klopp has in him. He has started 3 games in a row in the league now, and in each game a senior player was benched, who we thought would be starting in it. For Burnley, it was Thiago, Chelsea it was Keita & then yesterday it was Henderson. That's before we even talk about Curtis Jones or Milner.

What interested me was the sort of hybrid role that Elliot was playing where he was a centre mid, with freedom to move into a '10 position' role but also seemed to hug the touchline at times and allow Trent, and Salah, to move infield. The triangle between those 3 players on the right has given a lot of success and I am sort of wondering did Klopp plan for this last season. A move to use the 3rd midfielder spot to be a sort of enabler for Trent & Salah. He was looking for a player to do this, possibly recruit one. Maybe Saul was that man, or the German kid. But then pre-season arrived and in steps Harvey Elliot and he plays this role so well that Klopp says wait a minute why bother bringing in someone when we have the answer here under our noses. He does prefer to coach players rather than purchase anyways so maybe he was like lets try him out and go from there. He even shifted Hendo over to the left side of midfield against Chelsea, instead of his usual right side, just to continue playing Elliot on the right.

So where do we go from here? Is this tactic of the triangle on the right with the overloads going to be 'retired' for now? Or will he try and use Henderson in that role instead? He can certainly perform the centre mid aspect to the game, and even staying wide with ability to cross the ball. He was terrible as that role in the 1-1 game at Old Trafford a few years ago, but he has the ability to do it. I think it was the Southampton 3-1 win away the same year where he played very well out that side. He is very used to covering Trent also and at times 2 years ago he almost played at RCB at times he was so deep and allowing Trent to bomb on. I don't think this role would suit Thiago and Keita prefers to be a bit deeper I think, and also more of a left sided player. Maybe this is an opportunity for Jones to try and win that spot, and Ox too. Ox is a bit more direct for this role though IMO.

I would be inclined to agree with you. He is such a silky player, and the difference to the overall team with him in midfield is stark.

2nd this, Fab is class and it was of no coincidence that our worst spell last years was when we had to play him in the back 4! Completely different team with him back in the DM role.

Only things I heard or saw were the majority of Elland Road applauding him off and Bielsa offering his best to the player in his post match interview. Was there something else Leeds did as a club that I've missed?

I wonder could Firmino play the role Elliot was playing although that means no attacker on the bench ,,

It's a shame we ave no more left footed midfielder's because that space Elliot was in is made for a lefty ,

Curtis Jones could try his hand at it but might have to shift it to the opposite side of the midfield to work , ,