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Is this how bad the housing crisis is?

  • 13-09-2021 11:45am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭


    Looking for a place to rent. My enquiries get ignored or places are taken quick.

    Someone mentioned that some landlords don't like advertising so I should create an add. So I created an add on Facebook and on gumtree.

    I received a call today saying someone had a place to rent and gave a quote higher than what I can manage, but I mentioned the maximum I can pay in my add, so no surprises there.

    But then he went on to say that he can reduce the rent for sexual favours.


    Is this how bad things are that I can't get a place without selling myself?


    I told them that I can pay rent and I hung up on him. But I'm now sorry I didn't get more details and send the guards around for the viewing.


    Thousands of desperate students looking as well. Are living in brothels our only option now?



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Not the first I've heard of it. Happened to one of my daughter's friends when they were trying to rent. Needless to say, they refused.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Did you put up your picture?

    I reckon someone was taking the piss out of you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    This has been a thing for years now. Clare Daly was in the Dail speaking about it.


    I actually can't believe how bad the market has gone post covid. I had a room to rent recently. I was inundated with students. I had nearly 20 enquiries within the first 70 minutes of the ad being put up.

    In 2 days the ad had more than 1,000 views.

    I was being offered 20% more than the asking rent from people who didn't even view the house in person.

    And the problem is going to get worse when the foreign students are let back in. Thousands and thousands of brazilians, argentinean etc students are literally waiting for the borders to open. January/February is when they are seemingly planning to arrive here.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If memory serves me right, that was found to be a hoax, she was never able to provide the source nor details of the alleged request.

    It is a really big risk on the LLs part if the op is a minger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    No I didn't put up my picture. Nor am I minger.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    More like the landlord is a minger if that's what they have to do to get pleasure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 493 ✭✭BobHopeless


    Friend of mine renting a decent sized room out in his house in Dundrum to a couple from Hungary and he's very happy with the arrangement they are nearly always out working and are apparently lovely people. He was inundated with calls when he advertised the room (i think because he wasn't asking enough tbh) but he got a call from a Brazilian girl who offered him sexual favours if he rented to her. He hung up and blocked the number presuming it was someone taking the piss but this has me thinking otherwise. I wonder if people are that desperate now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    Well I told the landlord/creep to get lost today. So we're not all desperate.


    But it looks like the housing situation is desperate. And I don't know what to do. I do have a couple of months. But I'm not even getting replies now, so not feeling very confident about the whole thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Far far too risky to answer that on a phone call!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx



    Suspect it was someone " Taking the piss"


    What kind of idiot would say such a thing over the phone ?, type of approach you imagine could only happen in person as much more difficult to prove?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,996 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    Good Jesus man- spoiler that sort of talk. My sexual organs have retracted back into my body thinking of that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    Clearly people would say such a thing. If a potential landlord can ring up someone saying that kind of stuff. Well, anyone can.



  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Friend of mine renting a decent sized room out in his house in Dundrum to a couple from Hungary and he's very happy with the arrangement they are nearly always out working and are apparently lovely people. He was inundated with calls when he advertised the room (i think because he wasn't asking enough tbh) but he got a call from a Brazilian girl who offered him sexual favours if he rented to her. He hung up and blocked the number presuming it was someone taking the piss but this has me thinking otherwise. I wonder if people are that desperate now?

    Honestly, it wouldnt surprise me. Some people genuinely are desperate for somewhere to live. My former cleaner, who I got to know a bit, Brazilian lady in her mid 30's, was sharing a room with another. There was 8 of them together in a 3 bed apartment in town. Add in the students returning and vacancies are seriously short.

    A quick look on Daft and for all of Dublin county, there is just over a thousand properties available for rent. Some of these are the ridiculous priced ones. 4k for a 2 bed apartment kind of ones.

    Putting in a max of 1600, which is a lot, reveals just 349 rentals available. For a county of 1.3 million?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Yep, the total daft ad’s have collapsed.

    consider there was a peak of 22,000 places on daft in 2012, in the middle of a different housing crisis, but that number is 1,815 this evening, split roughly 50:50 between Dublin and everywhere else - and only 550 are 3-bed+, irrespective of location or price.

    im a full time LL for many years with single-family homes, and there’s never been any squeeze like this - and all the while LL’s getting out by the thousand, as we saw from the RTB a few weeks ago.

    no tenants are moving out at the moment, everyone is staying put, and any places that are being vacated are being sold out of the rental market.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That is outrageous. There are some horrible people in the world



  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I moved in the past month. The place I was renting in Dublin 18 for 1452 a month is now on daft for 1600. It was 1200 when I moved in in 2014.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭ghoulfinger


    I’m a landlord, one of the apparently rare non-greedy variety. That said, I I’m fortunate enough to have no mortgage, so I can afford to be less financially focussed. Otherwise it might be a different story. In any case I’d much rather have my excellent continental long-time tenants at the modest rent I afford them for the good accommodation offered, than someone who might pay more and not treat it with the same amount of respect. They are looking after my investment well. I accept pets, told my agents that I would be particularly willing to accept a stable pet-owning family, which I duly got back in the noughties. Rents then got reduced at the downturn, and fortunately I could weather it, but have not been realistically able to increase to market value since, so as long as they are my tenants they will be renting at a relative bargain and I’m ok with that. I don’t have a fancy lifestyle to finance. My tenants originally approached the agent to enquire if there was a suitable potential landlord on their books, kind of like a tenancy matchmakers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭jmlad2020


    Recently saw a guy looking for a room who was offering a €500 cash bonus to anyone willing to give him their room directly.

    Yes people are getting desperate. People offering sexual favours are likely real. As someone currently looking for accommodation it is harder now than pre-pandemic. And that is saying a lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    Is it a case of take what I can get? There's a place available at the moment, within my budget but it is a complete eyesore with dark old furniture and carpet from the 1970s. It's been available for a few weeks and I'm wondering why.


    But that said, I have 5 months to find something. So do I hold off for a few more weeks?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    The only landlords I personally know who havent sold up yet are 2 with problem tenants that they have been trying to evict for over 3 years each at this point.

    One had received no rent at all in 3 years. The other is over 10k in arrears. Pays rent whenever they feel like it.

    Both these landlords are selling as soon as they get their properties back.

    You can see on DAFT and myhome too that some are even selling at rock bottom prices, with tenants in situ (most probably the ones who cant get the tenants out), they are so desperate to get out.

    I used to personally know loads of landlords. Soon I wont even know one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,438 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    yup, the markets completely wrecked for both landlords and tenants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭sk8board


    33% increase over the past 7 years isn’t actually that bad, considering



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,438 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    thankfully wage inflation has matched this rate!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Blue4u


    The advice people I know are been given is to go letting agencies and give them a bio, then they will sell you to the landlords. I haven't seen advice to publish your details + rent onto social media.

    You have no idea if the person is a landlord or not, it could be any chancer. Plenty of people going around "renting" properties that turn out to never exist or they are not landlords. I would have kept his number and reported to the Gardai, I think once they check into him I doubt he is any landlord.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    He called on a private number, so I can't report him.


    As for not creating an add yourself, there are landlords that don't want to advertise. So hoping there might be someone that might have something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭lossless


    I wonder where all this magical demand pressure comes from? Why, I wouldn't even be able to infer it from the few posts above. No siree Bob.


    The whole situation is an affront to decency, not to mention an insult to intelligence.


    Zero surprise if the likes of prostitution and sexual predation are creeping into it. But while the anecdotes and personal experiences are piling high, there'll be nowt statistics or investigation. This is yet another of the invisible costs of this supposed "country".


    Scam, scam, scam, in all its entirety.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Tchaikovsky


    This is one bleak thread. Sorry to hear you had to go through that, OP, and hope you find a place soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭lossless


    I don't know your personal situation, of course, but my gods honest advice is to do a severe re-evaluation of your life and it's direction.


    It's very difficult, but you have to realise that there is no relief or let-up coming within at least the next decade. This housing crisis is baked in, purposefully and knowingly.


    Can you move elsewhere? Can you start over elsewhere? Can you swap careers, swap education?


    Living in a dank hole for ludicrous amounts of money that will only increase will leave you where, exactly, in x amount of years? Saving a minute amount of money in order to have the reward of having a ludicrous mortgage tied around your neck for the rest of your life? From the frying pan into an another frying pan?


    It is clear, even from a cursory glance, that this country is being run as a business. A business that's being liquidated, to boot. Highest bidder from anywhere gets to play, the government's are going to give them guarantees on their investment and supply the fuel to keep the fire blazing. It's a free for all, and while people are too weak-minded to stand up to this affrontery, despite what their eyes and ears are telling them, nothing is going to change.


    This country is up for sale, and it isn't to you. Everything from the double-irish "economics" to the thou-shalt-not-even-broach hysterics of it's migrant "policy" spells it loud and clear. Hence landlords leaving, hence decent people leaving, hence miserable stories accumulating.


    Do what's sensible and distance yourself from this scam if you can, no matter the difficulty. Scant consolation in it's complexity, but it's the only remaining sense available in this two faced joke.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Blue4u


    The landlord are using agencies, you should create a BIO and go around all the estate agencies in your area and give them it, if you have a friendly one maybe get them to give some pointers. Then leave in every one you can and hopefully they will find you a property.

    I would still report him, the Gardai will be able to contact the network and can get the number, withheld or not. Disgusting carry on and should be reported.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Unfortunately this is not new. I never meet prospective tenants on my own for a claim of me being inappropriate or them being so. Had an issue with one tenant trying to get her house mate to join in a threesome for drugs last year. People are not easy to deal with



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,438 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    id go insane house sharing, i know other young folks that feel the same, its a sh1te situation for them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭jmlad2020


    Screenshoted from a few weeks back on this popular houses sharing platform.

    €1 per month in Grand Canal Dock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik



    You are not wrong. Definitely not new.

    I had a landlord years ago who was up accused by another tenant in the house of sexual assault.

    I found out when the gardai called to us all in the other flats to ask did we see anything or hear anything. Sure she used to be screaming all night most nights. Was a nightmare to live in the same house as.

    As it turned out in the end the charges were dropped.

    Talking to the landlord after it was all dropped he said she offered him a BJ in lieu of the rent. He said no and she said then she would report him for assaulting her.

    Take the BJ or be reported was his choice.

    He told her to be out of the apartment in a week.

    So she followed through on the report, but it turned out she had done that many times with other people in the past so the gardai didnt take it any further.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,548 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    I have heard of some elderly people giving accommodation in return for housework. Elderly single people with spare rooms seem to be the people doing this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,934 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    That case in Castleknock a few years ago would put anyone off having strangers in your home..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Jesus, forgot about that one.

    You just never know do you?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,548 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    So just because some guy lost a game of chess and became upset with his landlord, no one will ever take in a lodger again? By that logic no one should walk down O Connell Street in Dublin after what happened there a few years ago either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Or you could just let people win at chess all the time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    I don't know why you feel the need to deny this? There are an awful lot of young women who've had this offer made to them, personally I know two who've been given this 'opportunity'.

    The rental market is a joke, a woman I know in Galway has been looking for a room to rent for a while now and has gone to 28 different viewings in the last two weeks and while she hasn't been told something like this, I do know the prices she's getting told when looking to get information is often higher than was advertised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭jbv


    Not many places to rent, however plenty short rent on Airbnb and other platforms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,934 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Good for anyone Hybrid-WFH who might need a place for a few nights here & there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Well how do you know the ad is real? I really doubt anybody is that stupid to post an ad like this but people are stupid enough to make up an ad and post it. Do you deny that is possible and it never happened before. I know landlords have had malicious ad placed up by disgruntled former tenants and believe that is more likely than somebody proposing illegal activity in a ad

    I never denied people are propositioned and included what happened with tenants. False accusations are also an issue.

    What your friends says about prices has no bearing either. You have misplaced anger



  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I really doubt anybody is that stupid to post an ad like this

    Never underestimate just how stupid people can be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,548 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    Any I have seen with tenants in situ are being sold by banks/receivers/vulrurefunds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    I put in "Castleknock lodger" and got it. I'd forgotten all about it but don't live too far away.

    I've had lodgers for about 8 years now and do as many checks as I can and thankfully have managed to avoid murderous cannibals.



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