The Ivermectin discussion

The title of the thread and the continuous griftiness around Ivermectin has tainted the talk of what may be other valid treatments that appear on this thread. I think the Ivermectin conversation is basically at a standstill until it gets approved by a trusted authority (EMA, FDA, MHRA, PFSB) or some decently run double blind trial results appear.

There's a clear line between following the science and waiting for new treatments to be approved, and promoting/self-prescribing unapproved treatments on the basis that the medical/scientific community is excessively cautious and/or corrupted.

I'm surprised recent posts haven't fallen foul of the "no medical advice" rule on boards.

But not believed to be of any great use even in Japan, more likely to be a placebo effect if any. It also pushes people down the road of even more quackery.

Thread should be renamed.

Suggestions ?

" Ivermectin emerges as a pile of twaddle "

Or ...

"Ivermectin merges with various alternative non cures as a distraction from Covid reality " ?

Overdosing on anything is dangerous, a lot of the remedies have known side effects which are acceptable if they're treating someone who's sick and the remedy gives a positive results, everything else is a variation of "live better, get your vitamins".

A lot of people use various mouthwash but they don't use it to ward off SARS-COV2, even though it will kill most of the virus it comes into contact with when you're actively using it, it's effects when you're not using it will be fairly small (similar with the nasal sprays that will probably help for a while).

If somebody is trying to sell you mouthwash to fight SARS-COV2, it is snake oil, it's available freely for anybody to buy and use, there doesn't need to be a campaign or website behind it, there won't be a much of a study run because it's not worth doing so (even the deep pocket manufacturers know what the result would be, better dental health and might clear the virus in the mouth while being gargled).

I guess the point of this thread is to look at promising treatments but it has descended into "this one old trick will keep you free of COVID-19(sic)" style clickbait or "the manufacturer doesn't want you to know".

Povidone iodine is toxic in usual amounts that kill bacteria, haven't heard of antiviral properties until I read those studies that Woody79 posted .

Again I would not like to be relying on it to protect against infection .

And why are you calling people " drooling idiots"? Its uncivil and rude .

This thread is interesting from a purely" what if " POV because so far all that has worked to any degree are vaccines. And they are not the endpoint it appears.

All of these " therapeutics" are not going to prevent infection , but are either placebos or at their very best may help clear an infection faster in those mildly affected .

No harm though as long as people know the difference .