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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭Nyero


    The people organising electric picnic have been doing it almost 20 years, but according to you they wouldn't have the first clue what to do.

    In case you missed it every band in Ireland has been keeping every weekend free for a year and a half, I am sure somebody would have been available.

    But you know best.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,579 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    Electric picnic would have been packed out with Dave down the road playing the ukelele, if they were given the chance. They didn't need the time to lock in a world class line up though pretty sure Liam Gallagher tweeted about it the day it was cancelled so presumably they had some artists lined up. People seem to be pushing this weird idea that EP went hell for leather on a media run to get a festival they couldn't actually set up, approved? Bizarre line of thought. When there's a will, and cash, things can be organised very quickly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,371 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,896 ✭✭✭Former Former Former




  • Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭Nyero


    The One Love Manchester event was organised in about 8 days. Like you said Dave with the Ukelele would have been good enough for EP, everybody would have had a blast and worked around anything that wasn't quite as well organised as normal.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,656 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It’s just a flu bro (for the vaccinated who are unfortunate to have breakthrough symptomatic infection)



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,540 ✭✭✭JTMan


    Northern Ireland hospitals starting to struggle with Covid-19 patients. Army might get called in.




  • Registered Users Posts: 13,050 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Ahh Boris, Boris :)

    Many have been preparing the UK for lockdown again in the next month or two due to high hospitalisations and case numbers , because of UK lifting restrictions too early ..



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Cases are dropping fast now in the UK. Been well over week now of 25-30% daily reductions on a week on week basis



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,050 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    But hospitalisations and deaths are still going up . Isn't that what counts ?

    NHS is under pressure now .


    And don't take my word for it , here is Dr Nabarro in this link , WHO special envoy on Covid, giving some advice to British government to be ready to reimpose restrictions ...

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-records-30-597-new-cases-and-201-deaths-with-over-8-000-coronavirus-patients-in-hospital-12408713



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Why would you impose restrictions when cases are falling so fast? Nothing that can be done about the hospitalisations at this stage…..if there were going to be restrictions then they should have been when cases were rising.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,050 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Yes. Exactly ! Thank you Woody22 ;)

    That is why we did not lift restrictions earlier until we were into a better situation vaccine wise and cases .



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    As much as everyone on here seems to want to see England fail (and look I dislike the UK and Boris as much as anyone), they eventually stumbled blindly onto the correct solution. Which as they put it was “if not now, then when”.

    They lifted all their restrictions at the best time - mid summer when hospitals were a little calmer, schools had holidays and got on with it. It also gave them the best possible chance to hopefully escape winter without reimposing anything. For some reason people want to see them fail and suffer. I sense the glee almost when someone can come along and say “hospitalisation/cases up in the UK. I told you! They lifted too early! Let’s wait and see for 2 more weeks x 10”.

    Our lifting should work fine if the usual suspects aren’t spooked, but we’ve essentially lost 3 months based on head in the clouds modelling. 3 months to some people is nothing, but 3 months continued money & job disruption for others is an awful lot on top of a previous 15 months.

    (And quoting the North or Scotland is interesting given they were more conservative with England with regards to lifting)



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,309 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Who are these everyone that wants to see England fail?

    So you want to see more people dying in the UK?


    Bizarre hatred of our nearest neighbours. Leave the hatred for sport but this is just nonsense.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,248 ✭✭✭nc6000


    What else are most bands currently doing that makes you think they wouldn't be available?

    Maybe we couldn't have expected the big stage lighting shows etc but I'm sure plenty of big acts would have been happy to perform.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,309 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Some people have just seen covid as some competition between us and England. The layers of weirdness that covid has brought out in some Irish people is worrying.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,050 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I absolutely refute those other comments. Utter bs .

    It is people saying " look at the UK they are open and having a great time " , when there situation healthwise is miserable and has been all along .

    When people stop saying how wonderful Boris and the UK are doing and how " svxt " we are doing and maybe get the heads out of the sand , then I and others will stop showing you the reality .

    No competition . I feel sorry for every normal person over there

    We have missed the summer . We have been uber cautious . We should really be fully opening up next week or so at this stage , but we are in a much better position, having avoided major death and disease , not completely I know , but a lot better than many other jurisdictions .

    Our caution was down to our completely crvp health service capacity , but we were never going to be the bull in the china shop like Boris and his Tory mates , thankfully .

    And really , NI and Scotland opened up 2 weeks after UK . They had no choice because Boris had opened up .



  • Registered Users Posts: 493 ✭✭BobHopeless


    What a weird statement. You want to see the UK fail and people get sick and die because you dislike them? Disgusting



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The UK have made a mess of things so many times we've lost count but if "Freedom Day" is your only measure then they are heroes. Very odd way to describe what we are doing in the face of a virus that may make people extremely sick. Equally odd it's so intemperate four weeks from the end of all this. Our hospitality and entertainment experiences aside we are far less put upon than some countries.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Meanwhile, another Long COVID study to add to the continuing conveyor belt of competing studies which have yet to answer questions about it one way or another.





  • Registered Users Posts: 8,371 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Why exactly would you feel sorry for anyone in the UK??? Seriously

    In the UK they do feel sorry for us in Ireland I'm sure, now that we have medicalised the actual parts worth living for, out of our lives.

    We are petrified of returning to normality, as can be seen be those who are still afraid now that 9 in 10 adults are vaccinated.

    Also the situation health-wise in the UK is nothing got to do with the health service or restriction's. They have 12 million citizens over 65(over 90% of deaths are over this age), and they have a large BAME population (disproportionately affected by Covid) due to the commonwealth situation.

    Ireland has about 690,000 vulnerable citizens. Our never ending restrictions didn't save anyone here, there was just less vulnerable people to be saved

    If you want to live a life the UK really are the gold standard, if you want to be reminded of human mortality on a daily basis and reasons not to live your life, Ireland is the place to be.



  • Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭Nyero


    Why do feel sorry for normal people living in a country where all the ridiculous restrictions were binned months ago?



  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So as many of us predicted, NPHETs models that were used to justify prolonged restrictions are once again miles off. So far off that they lose all credibility. We can barely get close to 2000 cases a day based on close to 30,000 tests a day.

    Time to get the Taoiseach in front of a camera again. We need to ram the message down the publics throat at this stage. No more restrictions, no more lockdowns, the virus is endemic, major scale back of testing, personal responsibility. Time to be grown ups again.

    Remind people that its ok to wear 3 masks if it helps them feel safe but we can't have thousands of kids out of school everyday and thousands out of work.



  • Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭Nyero


    1st September

    In a letter to Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly on 25 August, published online today, Chief Medical Officer Dr Tony Holohan warned that Ireland could see a peak infection level this month of between 3,000 and 5,000 cases per day. 



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,309 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Usual rubbish about whatever Borris did. Trump, Boris, whatever rubbish to not talk about Ireland's failures.



  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Ah_well.


    You feel sorry for every normal person over there ? Why on earth would that be ? The vast vast majority aren’t affected by the virus. You should go over there and offer your condolences with the locals about the extreme misery and terror the poor English people are currently having to experience . See what response you get .It would be an enlightening experience I’d imagine . You might just find that they feel sorry for you . There is no guarantee they won’t have to reimpose restrictions just like there is no guarantee we won’t have to . Difference is they have had total normality for months now .



  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why should we feel sorry for the UK? Just because they might have some more Covid deaths than us while living normal lives?

    Should we drill down into deaths and see who has more cancer deaths? Or more COPD, heart related deaths? How about road deaths?

    Why do we continue to put this ONE mild illness on a pedestal?

    Do we now measure the quality of all of our lives on how many Covid deaths the country has?



  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Ah_well.


    To criticise Johnson and England for their handling of the pandemic pre vaccine is of course completely correct . Their death count was a tragedy and Johnson’s handling of the pandemic was terrible . However to say that the reopening in England in July was a bad decision appears to me to be wrong. They may have to reimpose lower level restrictions over the winter they may not. There are no guarantees of anything in this pandemic . The future is uncertain . At least they had months of normality when they had the chance and whilst hospitalisations have risen as was expected the balance of trade between illness and society fully opening wasn’t compromised to my mind .



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,094 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    If the UK ever has to go back into lockdown we will too. Our overly cautious approach has never stopped waves from hitting us when the rest of Europe gets his thus far.



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