Dun Laoghaire Traffic & Commuting Chat

Me neither I bring my own reusable cup everywhere.

I do wonder how you reconcile insisting on table and chairs as far away from other people as possible but also indoors?

Now if only there was somewhere in Dún Laoghaire with a sea view...

The rates are extortionate (€2) if you are parked for more than 15 minutes.

Moreover, having seen the amount of compliance related documentation on the Online Planning Search Portal which spans at least half a decade of back and forth, the amount of overheads generated by these automatically builds risk into the Frascati refurbishment from an investment perspective. I get the need for some baseline compliances. However, the amount of time it is taking to get the renovations complete due to these compliance hoops is ridiculous.

As such, some could be forgiven for thinking that the respective planning authorities are scrutinizing the success of such gambles.

Extortionate? Less than the price of a coffee for a few square metres for up to three hours, same as Dundrum. Not sure where the extortion is there, but it looks like drivists have been just a bit spoilt in the past.

attracting retirees with money...... no, because once they die off they'll be no more customers...

2001 plan, 20 years old, give me a break! Breaking News: things have changed dramatically since 2001. Any council or indeed any organisation trying to stick to a 20 year old plan should be sacked or shot, preferably both. DLR are adapting to changing times. It wouldn't be any harm if others tried to do the same.

'Very efficient supply chain' seems to mean outsourcing of the danger and disruption onto society at large to shave a few shillings off the unit price.

If having a proper sized vehicle doing deliveries in places like this costs a few cents more, then Dealz customers might just have to shell out a few cents more, instead of socialising that cost onto the rest of us.

Exactly, I'm baffled that other posters think it's acceptable for businesses to expect to be able to drive artic trucks through residential streets to inner suburb shops. Look elesewhere in Europe and it's the norm to have small delivery trucks into city areas.

I appreciate Bloomfields isn't in an ideal location for deliveries but the solution isn't just removing the pedestrianised streets to allow juggernauts through. Residents should put the council to insist on small delivery vehicles.

That's funny as that's my road (well around the corner). Don't recall my parents recounting a miserable summer at all, I also don't recall seeing any trucks like that passing through. I imagine a mistake was made with regards to those diversions (they'd be better off going down york road and then back towards bloomfields). Someone in the council made a stupid mistake with those diversions, that does not mean the closed road is the stupid.

It's called capitalism and efficiency shouldn't be blasted. How is this outsourcing danger?

it's not a difficult concept.

the cheapest way for Dealz to get tat on their shelves is to pile it onto the biggest lorry they can and drive it to the door. that is indeed what wholly unregulated capitalism will do.

however, doing this may cause disruption/inconvenience and yes even danger for those people who have to navigate big lorries going through their neighbourhood.

it's a largely intangible cost but a cost nevertheless. and the cost is paid not by those who shop at Dealz but people who live on and around the roads into Dealz.

Therefore the cost/danger can be said to be paid by the neighbourhood, not the people actually buying the tat.

Of course you can replace Dealz with any shop - it's just that Dealz was pointed out above and i particularly dislike shops that spell things with a 'z'

does anyone know how to use the block user feature?

I can't find it with the new setup, its very useful feature

Discussion just finished on Pat Kenny re. the DLRCC Safe Cycling initiative and the proposed Deansgrange changes.

I assume today (and the next few weeks) will be like every September where people forgot how bad the traffic is and assume they can leave home at 8:45 for a quick jaunt into their office in the city centre. It will sort itself out in time.

On the other hand, if you refuse to change anything that might give people alternatives to driving, traffic will always be bad and get worse. It’s a self-fulfilling loop.