Dark side of the ring

Absolutely no chance of that happening I would have thought

Ah come on do you really think Vince would suspend Brock of all people for anything ruining the main event of mega payday Saudi show

Anyone else feel like Dustin Rhodes got off very lightly in the episode. Like they didn't go into some of the allegations against him that were as bad if not worse and even painted him as sympathetic? I don't want to get into tribalism but I do feel like DSOTR might be getting to close to AEW in that regard. It was a real oversight in the episode.

Other than that it was horrifying even if it's been well documented in the past. RVD's comment on the drugging of women was the most shocking thing for me, absolutely appalling. The Flair stuff has always been strange especially because of how often it's brushed off as just Ric being Ric or somehow hilarious. I remember seeing it in the 30 for 30 and thinking that it was a really odd thing to put out as 'fun'. Mind you, people often brush off flashing as a joke which is messed up.

Dreamer shot himself in the foot, for no reason except a chance to be interviewed. Definitely always had the reputation as being a nice guy but it seems more likely that he is just loyal to whoever is the most beneficial to him at a given moment, I don't know maybe I'm jumping to conclusions. All I know is he didn't exactly come up smelling like roses after those comments.

Should it be so shocking to anyone that professional wrestling is a sleazy business full of sleazy people? It is a business born out of a carnival con. They even call their fans 'marks' which was originally a term for a person who'd be easy to part from their money. Every time we get a glimpse at what goes on behind the scenes, it's like we can't believe some of the stuff that goes on, but after the steroid fiasco, the brain injury fiasco, the sexual harassment episodes, the medical malpractice revelations and all the stories about bullying we should probably accept that wrestling is one bent business. There'll probably always be something going on behind the scenes, much as there probably will always be stuff going on in Hollywood.

It says a lot about the industry that this is causing a such hubub with people getting suspended and ad campaigns being pulled while poor Daffney comitting suicide a couple of weeks ago is pretty much forgotten.

I'm sure Daffney won't be forgotten. It's a matter of when her story is told.

What did Dustin do besides singing that song, stopping flair etc.

Just watched it. I think it's safe to say that even Breezango would argue there's a huge difference between the legalities of how someone wears their hair and what Flair did. What was Dreamer thinking?!

How are people watching this series? Netflix, amazon etc??? Be very interested to get in to it.

Next week's episode is on Chris Kanyon and by early reports Flair doesn't come out of this episode looking much better than he did on this weeks.

Angle was on the Smackdown roster after the brand split. This flight was the Raw roster for the May 2002 UK PPV. The Smackdown UK PPV was in November 2002. Back in those days they had brand-exclusive PPVs and would only bring the rosters together for the major PPVs, like Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, et al.

Kurt Angle wrestling Vince and the Undertaker intervening would have been in either December 2000, May 2001, or November 2001.

The kind of stuff he's seen go on, seeing Flair corner a stewardess probably wasn't that big a deal to him, and there's also a tendency for wrestlers to stick up for 'the boys'. I think Dreamer forgot that he wasn't doing a shoot interview for Kayfabe Commentaries where he could talk loosely and candidly, and was actually on a show which would be seen by hundreds of thousands of people.

There's probably so much crazy stuff gone on behind the scenes in wrestling over the years that if DSOTR went on long enough it could probably get every single wrestler who started by 2005 cancelled.

And the whole thing about Flair was a revelation... to mainstream media and advertisers, which is the most damning kind.

This is one of many things I've seen mentioned but never looked into it, so this was all pretty much new info to me.

Tommy Dreamer released a statement, I honestly think from reading it he still doesn't understand what he said was wrong.

“Regarding my comments made on Dark Side of the Ring

It was never my intention to offend, hurt or victim shame anyone

I understand my comments were insensitive and could trigger emotions in someone’s own personal past.

I do not condone sexual misconduct of any kind.

I apologize to anyone I offended.

From the bottom of my heart

I am so sorry”