Something needs to be done about the conspiracy theories forum

@growleaves "How can any theory be fleshed out as long as posters are being mobbed by trolls anyway?"

Surprisingly easily. When posting, formulate a rational argument and support it with valid arguments and evidence. Recognise that research involves more than just watching a few YouTube videos and treating their content as holy writ.

You'd think the CT-sceptics were sitting on peoples' keyboards or something. "I couldn't flesh out my argument because King Mob's left arse cheek was in the way..." 🙄

So we've kinda seen that those arguing to change the charter aren't really putting any effort into explaining how they'd like to change it and how it would work in a practical sense.

Sydthebeat and nullzero suggested a way for conspiracy theories to start off with the basic questions already answered, but no one who wants the forum changed or shut down has actually responded to this. Is it because they don't like the suggestion? Do they think it's impractical? They haven't said and I daren't ask their opinions as that might kill the discussion.

Similar I asked a few practical questions about how the new charter would operate. Like how to deal with some of the bad faith tactics some conspiracy theorists have used recently.

Still don't have any idea how those who want a new charter believe those things should be dealt with.

I also pointed out the issue of what would and wouldn't be considered a valid conspiracy theory. Now we're being told that people can just tell what is and isn't a valid one without evidence or asking about it?

This to me is very hypocritical. All the conspiracy theorists here hold different conspiracy theories that the others would say is invalid. Some hold theories what would offend the others if we dared to hint that the two are similar.

So how do we tell what are valid theories without knowing about the details of them and not being able to ask questions about it?

Should invalid theories just not be allowed? Should they just be dismissed as suggested by CQD?

Let's use a practical example. One current theory being presented is the idea that all space missions are fake.

Is this a valid theory or an invalid one? How is this determined?

Careful KingMob, I raised those same topics and got a cartoon as a response 😉

And of course people just innately know the difference between the real CTs and the fake ones, it's just common sense innit! No need to even worry about it....🤦

If the word you was band from the conspiracy forum then half of the context from posts would be missing. That's eventually what all discussion become. You this, you that, you you you you you. Everyone is partial to the odd conspiracy, it is when people take them as gospel that all seriousness is derived to a meaningless mess of mashed up words boarding on abuse. I used to like reading them because they do make you think, and think for yourself in some cases. What makes conspiracies interesting is how one arrives at a conclusion but it all gets broken down when the least bit of critical thinking gets thrown in and that is where the issue is. The theorist does not like to own their mistake so it is a blame game from there on out, hence you this, you that, blah blah blah blajh. Burn them with fire and from the ashes allow someone with a phycology background to mediate them, obviously that person(s) have to remain impartial. Can be like a group therapy session the boards way 😁

The phrase "badgering the witness" predates the internet if that helps. (Though of course sceptical posters have no special authority to turn threads into cross-examinations.)

Warnings and bans already take place for trolling. Discussions can only take place if people who propose CT’s actually discuss them and that rarely happens.

So there is really no additional benefit to the old charter as trolling is covered.

It is difficult to see how admins would update a charter without having a clear list of benefits for doing so. Although maybe they would.

I think the template is a good idea, that the only people to fear it are ones who regurgitate a Twitter post or something without putting any thought into it.

This is exactly why i gave up going into the CT threads.

The pile on from the few in the "Prove It" mob , the thought that they are infallible, and every one else is a "conspiracy nut" ..

Same names, same accusations, same incessant questions ... repeatedly...

Its just not worth travelling into that cesspit of hyperbole......................

(Do i have to prove that ??)

Surely issues across the whole of Boards should be separated from this thread, and have a new feedback thread set up so this can focus on the issues you see as solely CT forum related.

Apparently the real trolling was the skeptics questioning (sealioning) him?

All theories should apparently be accepted.

Which goes back to conspiracists wanting a safe discussion-free echo chamber...on a discussion forum?