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Republic of Ireland Team 2023/24 [old thread]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,796 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    We all getting fed up of Connolly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    It doesn’t help with him that he has what’s known as a punchable face.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    They should be shipping him out on loan in January, sink or swim to see if he has the attitude to succeed or just throws another hissy fit like a couple of weeks ago.

    Said it before they should have loaned him back out after his injury at Luton ruined his first loan but Potter had just arrived and was basically reshaping a squad left by Hughton.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Good interview here with Omobamideles coach from Leixlip.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,843 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    He needs to playing 90 minutes every week ,still has plenty of time to come decent



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Surprised all the big clubs of Europe haven't been in for him. He's some player who's being ruined by Celtic apparently. The 10 appearances he made for bankrupt Bolton, who had about 15 players in total showed that, although he only played the full 90 4 times.

    How often have you actually seen him play Francie?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    He played in ten of their 18 final league games after making his first start in the FA Cup. Those other 14 players must have been some fine specimen if Bolton could afford to not pick players when they only had 15 players. Hyperbole much but wouldn't expect less really.

    I watched him play for Bolton and the lad was quality on the ball. Southampton had bids turned down for him when he'd only played in the cup and tried to sign him again after his league debut. Even Curtis Fleming bigging him up when Mick brought him in to train with the senior team, and Fleming would have coached against him when Bolton played Middlesbrough.

    https://www.otbsports.com/soccer/can-shift-spray-50-yards-former-international-luca-connell-862507

    I'd say ask Bolton fans but a lot of them still think he's a C U Next Tuesday because of his agent and how he left the club.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    So you watched him play a tiny amount of games 3 seasons ago. Do posters think Neil Lennon, Mick McCarthy, Ange Postecoglou and Stephen Kenny didn't/aren't playing him out of spite or something??



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    You'll have to ask people who works with him or have worked with him for that. And don't know why you'd include Mick or Kenny. If Kenny picked him the uproar would be worse from folks like you than any criticism from Irish fans about how his move to Celtic has turned out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Why would there be uproar about picking a midfield dynamo, who Celtic are ruining by not playing?? How many Irish 19/20 year olds are playing first team football anywhere at the moment, bar LOI?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,796 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    I never watched him at Bolton, but I did watch him play in the under 21's, watched the a bit of him at Queen's Park last season, and pre-season for Celtic this year.

    He definitely has some strengths. He has a great left foot, can knock some good crosses in, can pick a pass, and isn't afraid to take a shot at distance.

    The negatives? He's not the most physical player in terms of strength and looks quite slow. While he looks good on the ball, his lack of physicality in midfield means he looks like he goes missing off the ball.

    It is worrying that three Celtic managers have looked at him and passed now. His ability is clear for anyone to see. My guess is that they are probably looking at his lack of physicality and thinking that he just doesn't have the legs to compete at a high level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Physically he looks weird now since he's bulked up at Celtic, looks too bottom heavy. As a scrawny 17yr old he looked a lot sharper and full of energy, even made his debut as a wing back. Now he looks like someone that struggles to get around the pitch, and the bulking up has slowed him down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Derby going into administration. Should hopefully see Knight move on this season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Hourihane and Egan starting for Sheffield United, Stevens back in training this week.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Egan makes it 3-0 from another corner. Hull are shocking at defending corners this second half.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    He specified Omo was picked because of his pace vs Auba last week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    Ryan Manning got absolutely upended with a kick while 3-0 down and the kicker only got a yellow

    https://twitter.com/amyclement94/status/1439235558090461190?s=21



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Manning also got booked for kicking the ball away, Lansbury was taking a free. He won't try that again haha.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Sky putting it down as an OG, Peter Kioso scored their second goal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Steven Reid showing Chris Hughton how it's done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,036 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    How'd Obafemi play? I see he played the full 90 anyway, which is great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    travers getting good notices for a team at the top of the championship



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Has been a good week for him. Ticking along nicely so far this season for Bournemouth. Thankfully they couldn't get your man in from Newcastle, and Travers is so far showing them he can be their number one.

    I think he's jumped ahead of Kelleher to claim that starting spot against Qatar if Kenny feels like changing keepers for that match.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,408 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    I would like see him get another run. He made a couple of bad mistakes on his last outing for Ireland but needs to be given another chance for the sake of his confidence. I would agree he is ahead of Kelleher in the pecking order at the moment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89



    Yeah for mistakes that Travers might have made I don't think the back three helped him much in that game with some poor defending, like Clark getting manhandled by Mitrovic but we also had Duffy in terrible form and Egan out. O'Shea was in the centre of the three which didn't suit him either. Coleman TBF did make some good blocks to prevent Serbia getting shots on target. They only had four on target, unfortunately three were goals.

    For Azerbaijan and Qatar next month I'd like to see Kenny keep the same starting XI for both games if we've no injury concerns going into the game. We've never had a chance for him to get what he might feel is his strongest XI onto the pitch. For example whenever Idahs been fit Robinsons been playing injured, and vice versa. Next summer we'll have four games in 12 days, and friendlies in March so plenty of time to change things up for fringe players next year.

    But keeping the same outfield 10 and putting Travers in goals would be good too, get to see Travers play in a team who'll want their keeper to be able to pass it about and start off passages of attack play.

    Even though Portsmouth lost yesterday Bazunu had 100% passing accuracy which included "6 accurate long balls and four other passes into the opposition half" according to Kenny's Kids. Pompey fans claiming he's their best player this season and often dictate plays better than outfield players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,169 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Barring a Bazunu injury I dont think Travers or Kelleher will get much of a look in. Unless Kelleher moves somewhere to play.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Tony Cascarinos Sunday Times article was interesting in plugging Chris Hughton to replace Stephen Kenny.

    these are direct quotes...”I said on Irish radio I would play Shane Duffy at center forward, us saying it’s great saying we have brought down the average age of players, do you get points for that? I think most of them will sink.”

    And further.. “that’s why Jack decided to bypass midfield , we are trying to move the ball around and pass in a different way but we don’t have the technical players to do that “

    Bottom line for Cas seems to be is get newly sacked Hughton, stick Duffy up front, play long balls and stop playing young players?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭Ferris_Bueller


    He isn't the only ex-player to have these sort of opinions. They are ex-pros who have played at a high level and represented their countries, legends some of them, but I would sometimes question how much they actually follow the national team now. Whatever about Houghton and playing a direct style, but if you really think playing Shane Duffy up front and completely ditching our young players is the solution then you'd have to think they don't really have the best interests of the country/team.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    I would value the opinion of Lisa Fallon a thousand times more than Tony Cascarino. Someone whose actually worked in sports, not just football as an analyst. And not just an "analyst" brought in to talk about a match because you were an ex player, but actually employed by the IFA to work as an analyst for Michael O'Neill and worked with Dublin GAA.

    There's probably a reason why Cas became a poker player and spends most his times on radio talkshows rather than actually have done something in football after retiring. And that goes for a lot of ex players which people will lap up what they say.

    How come we never hear the opinions of Lee Carsley, Steven Reid, Brian Barry Murphy, Curtis Fleming, Jim Goodwin or other ex players that are actually employed rather than writing in papers or brought on to shows for sound bites.

    And I don't mean that as a dig at everyone that's not employed because I actually enjoyed listening to Brady during the last games. Spoke about the negatives but also gave positives. Even Roy Keane has been measured in what he's said at times often highlighting the lack of quality and goal scorers rather than having digs at Kenny himself. Even given the fact that Mick and Kenny were brought in to replace himself and MON, so took what he'd have to say originally with a pinch of salt because we know how Keane can be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,796 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    As good as Duffy is in the air, he'd have all the mobility of an oil tanker upfront. He wouldn't be able to link up play at all, or chase down balls into channels. Absolutely nothing wrong with using Duffy as he is being used now for set-pieces.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭RonanG86



    It's sort of elementary that you don't start a center back as a forward just cos he's good in the air. Chucking him up there for 10 minutes at the end when you're desperate for a goal and the oppo are desperate not to concede and are just defending their own box? That's one thing. Starting a center back at center forward is something else. They're completely different positions and beyond the physical attributes the skillset for one doesn't transfer to the other. Only a few exceptional players over the years have done it at a high level, and I actually can't think of one to do it in the last 20 or 30 years. Even a center back who's faster and more technically able than Duffy, let's say van Dijk, would struggle as a forward.

    Yet here's Cascarino getting paid to suggest something so ridiculous as a serious option. It's invalidated all his opinions on football for the rest of eternity, imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    If Cascarino had anything insightful to add to football he'd be employed in football instead of being a poker player that talks about it on the radio.

    Don't know about how many Irish coaches are working in the UK, but Mick McCarthy is the only Irish manager currently employed in the top four leagues of England after Hughton being sacked, and Brian Barry Murphy joining City as a coach.

    You've Goodwin in the SPL and one other lad in League Two. Seems a lot of our lads would rather talk about football managers than actually get involved in management.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,796 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    A reasonably reputable source is suggesting that Middlesborough are interested in Brady. Hopefully the deal can get done pronto.

    https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/exclusive-middlesbrough-make-contact-with-29-year-old-over-agreement-as-celtic-interest-lingers/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,279 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Playing in a Warnock team. Doesn't sound a match made in heaven.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,796 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Better a Warnock team than not playing at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,279 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭Ferris_Bueller


    Great to see him doing well over there. I never thought he would be good enough to make it to the senior international team but if he does well here you never know. A type of player we do not produce a lot of and in a position we are weak in, although would need to be playing with wingers to fit him in.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Fair play to the lad for looking beyond the UK rather than just float about the lower leagues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,672 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Only one's I can think of were Sutton, Wadhurst and our own Gary Doherty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,796 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    He reminds me a bit of McClean in his younger days, he's a traditional winger, got lots of pace, isn't afraid to take a defender on, has the legs to get up and down the wing and puts a shift in, maybe doesn't always have the best end product. With McClean's best days behind him, maybe there's a place for him if he continues to impress.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89




    Athletic article about Celtics match yesterday and James McCarthy. The bit in bold is whats really interesting, especially with comments before Liam Scales moved that it looked more like a Dermot Desmond transfer than a Ange Postecoglou transfer.


    "Dressing-room sources have spoken of how newcomer James McCarthy has struggled in training with the pace and intensity of Postecoglou’s sessions and the demands of his midfielders.

    The Athletic understands neither Postecoglou nor the scouting department had meaningful input into signing McCarthy this summer after his contract expired at Premier League Crystal Palace, and the 30-year-old Republic of Ireland international looked uncomfortable during the Livingston game. He often needed to take two or three touches and misplaced many of his passes, sometimes from close range while under no pressure. It was an incredibly awkward first start."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,673 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    McCarthy is a talented player but a propensity for jumping into his foxhole mid-game has always been there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Hoping for plenty of Irish starters in the league cup this midweek



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    John Joe Patrick Finn on the bench for Getafes game against Atletico Madrid.

    Ryan Johansson back on the bench against Ajax after missing out last week. Possible fitness issues when you consider he played 9 and 5mins off the bench for the U21s early this month and has yet to make his debut for his loan club.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Quinn recently got her passport, so interested to see how she fares.

    Going to be a difficult game. Chelsea striker Sam Kerr starts for the Aussies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Kelleher at least starts for Liverpool in the League Cup, probably the first of his handful of appearances he'll get this season.

    Omobamidele and Idah start for Norwich who play a back three and two up top against Liverpool. Should be a good game.

    Live on sky so handy enough to find it somewhere, possibly find it over on you boys in green forum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Enda Stevens back from injury and starts.

    Nathan Collins starts alongside Tardowski.

    Jimmy Dunne starts for QPR.

    U17 striker Ollie O'Neill on the bench for Fulham.



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