FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3 - Threadbanned User List in OP

You have to love the internet.

To summarise:

Some loons protest outside the private residence of Leo Varadkar calling him a pedophile and other homophobic slurs (note not one of the usual crew posted about it in the dedicated Leo thread of 'hate of the day', but there you go. I am sure when the government jet leaves for the UK someone will post some falsehoods about him ;))

The debate then turns into navel-gazing that it's really the fault of FG that this happened (with no evidence by the way).

The DUP is used as an example (the DUP far-right?) as if FG has some sympotic relationship with them (even though SF are in government with them)

TLDR: Loons protesting the fault Leo Varadkars house.... is really the fault of Leo Varadkar as he is the leader of FG. Let me know where I am wrong.

M Martin seems to be bristling when asked about Zappone in NYC. It's following the government around like a bad smell.

He does not want to meet her. The leak investigation must be going well so 😋

I've pointed this out many times on here. There's very little interest in discussing actually policy in this forum, anytime I try to bring something up as a topic it is typically met with a 'smart' remark in response. I've given up on that for the most part (although sometimes I get forgetful and try again, only to be reminded why I stopped).

I would imagine it's why these threads have become the same few people arguing back and forth, where most of it is just digs between posters and nothing to do with the actual thread topic. People wanting a genuine discussion just can't be bothered to deal with that.

Say what? Are we discussion different political theories and relevance to Irish politics, or are you just having a go at a poster to try and defend another poster?

Let's be clear, there was an attempt made to turn the homophobic attack on Leo's house into a fake narrative of FG links with the far right, in order to detract from the seriousness of the homophobic attack, which has been shown for what it was. There was also an attempt to flame the debate by referring to a group of posters on here as "Leo's crew". Both of those are far far distant from a comment by me on a much wider phenonemon on broader social media of Irish (and Ivory Coast) flags in Twitter and other handles.

It's so extreme though, it's either party X is God and is going to both fix everything and simultaneously give party Y a triumphalist bringing down( that is the slight bulling bit). A number of posters have no interest in policy but have an enormous interest in bringing Leo and Simon down in some way.

I don't count newspaper articles quoting economists as evidence of anything because economists are as subject to bias as anyone else.

As I said I do think they are fraying around the edges and maybe they're too long there but it's the opinion of the electorate that counts not mine.

It's par of the course.

Discuss some topic of the day, the automatic rebuttal is to dig up a Tweet from 4 years ago as some "haha gotcha'

It's playground bullying nonsense, that grown-ups are getting involved in. The idea to some that there is a "Leo crew" that is on patrol at all times strikes me as nuts but there you go. Some people need to have an enemy to fight against.

And to note, there is NEVER EVER any policy discussion. It's all, 'Oh Leo picked his nose' or 'Michael Martin sounds angry on the radio' or 'Oh look someone tweeted something, lets all laugh at it...lolz'.

100%

I find myself more and more getting engaged in these futile food fights.

The old sayings are true.

No, you are mistaken.

I posted in this thread and explicitly stated that there were rumours that some may have been SF members/activists and if they were would NOT have been there under the guidance of the party. I also gave credit to MLMD for her statement on the incident.

I also brought the fact that at the moment, the anger and outrage that is fostered by SF is working for them at the moment but will come back to bite them later on.

Anyway, my core point was that I did post about it in another thread, so McMurphy is mistaken.