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Fifa 22 Ultimate Team discussion thread

  • 16-09-2021 10:04am
    #1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Probably within a week or two of FUT22 web app release coming out now, so probably worth starting up the thread for this year's edition.


    I pre-ordered for the OTW card, but left it too late to get whatever these hero cards are.


    I'm honestly not feeling massively motivated to trade hard this year; it felt with the over abundance of rewards and "free" promo cards that I rarely needed to spend big on tradeable players. I'll probably do my usual thing of dropping some real money for an initial boost, and have a very soft trade pile, but I can't see me going in hard on trading this year.


    Also not sure if I'll go and drop that money on Week 0 or wait till the OTW cards come out (OTW Ronaldo, Messi...going to be a LOT of great cards in there this year).


    I should probably read on what new features and that are coming. Been basically ignoring a lot of FUT 22 chatter this year.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,151 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Haven't paid any attention to the build up this year, will get Early Access and do some web app stuff and see where I'm at. IF I do get the game the plan will be to get Robbie Keane in as early as possible and have him in all my teams for the year.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Rooney and RVP getting icons makes me so happy….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭Arciphel


    Pre-ordered for X-box last night, even after I said I wouldn't bother this year 😅

    With Xbox Game Pass & EA Play think we can play 10 hours of the Ultimate Edition from Wednesday - what are people going to be stocking up on ahead of the proper launch 4 days later?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭Calvin


    Some of the EA sponsored creators got it early and are all streaming the game rn… rivals rewards all seem untradeable(?). Not entirely sure as I only watched for 5 mins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭Bunny Colvin


    Same, wasn't going to either.

    Is it possible to play this and not be addicted? I enjoyed my summer off. Will try and play it causally this time!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭Arciphel


    Famous last words 😂



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I wouldn't say they've got the full game, so to speak, cause I saw people saying the cheapest bronze and silver packs were also MIA.


    Mind, I think every year, they step further and further towards all untradeable clubs, so it wouldn't shock me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭Calvin


    Think it’s the full game but EA have held off on releasing those packs on the market… they’re still in the code anyway and the mid tier packs still reference them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    Considering coming back to this this year but then again every so often I'm reminded of the massive time sink it is trying to keep a decent club going and the inevitable rage with game flow



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Early access starts tomorrow at 6PM.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Hating what I’m reading about the new WL. Specifically the whole needing to qualify stuff. Need five wins from nine qualifiers to enter. Seems designed to cut below average players out, and force average players to invest more heavily.


    rewards then if you qualify. https://imgur.com/a/U6aNxKB




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Gyan84


    Yeah I thought it looked great when it was just the 20 games with 4 points for a win and one for a loss but the qualifying means as a gold 3/2 finishing player I probably won't even qualify. Plus I don't think you can auto-qualify like you could if finished high enough in the past so you'll have to play those 9 placement games every week.

    There's no way I'd have enough time for that plus objectives so I'm just going to focus on getting the objective players and sbcs.

    Also nice to see that center backs got a pace buff but 38 year old Pepe being faster than Alexander-Arnold is insane.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭BrentMused


    Seems unbelievably quiet on here considering Early Access is out at 6pm this evening. Where are all the regulars? Last year the forum was buzzing although I appreciate that the forum changes have had a hugely negative impact on posting, myself included.

    I really don't know what to do this year. I was all for taking a year off, but I'm getting more and more tempted to get reeled in the closer Early Access gets.

    The problem is, I found myself getting far too addicted to it last year. I loved it, it was Godsend especially during that horrible winter lockdown, but every free minute I had I was either on the app, on the console, or on here posting about the game!

    I also have far less free time this year with no longer working from home and back to commuting, as well as restrictions being fully lifted. Weekend League for a start will be a complete non-runner and my playing time will be restricted to a couple of hours per night at the most. In truth, I haven't even turned my PS5 on since I got sick of FIFA 20 a few months ago.

    Then that leads me to think that if I don't have the time to put into it, is there any point? All I'll be doing is pissing against the wind from day one and Ultimate Team is not the type of thing you can just pick up and play here and there as opponents just get too far ahead in terms of their teams.

    Has there been much improvement gameplay wise or is it still reported to be very similar?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭Calvin


    Yeah, Boards changes prob has had a massive impact. I’ve read that GKs are actually good this year and it’s slower gameplay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭BrentMused


    I note the Ultimate Edition this year gives 4,600 FIFA Points which I don't think was the case last year?

    Have I missed out on the best pre-order options or is Ultimate still the one? I see it does have the OTW card but I may have missed out on the Hero I believe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,439 ✭✭✭Josey Wales


    I've decided to buy FIFA for the first time since the original FIFA International Soccer on the Mega Drive. I've always been a PES fan but with that series now gone I tried FIFA '21 via Game Pass. I really got hooked by FUT, so I'm interested to see how a FUT season plays out from the very start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭Redzer7


    Will give it another bash this this year meself, usually lose interest after a month or two but hopefully I can enjoy it this year and stick with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,151 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Yeah 4600 FP instead of the 2x15k packs for 12 weeks or whatever it used to be, technically fewer total packs but waaaaaay better imo. I think you've only missed out on the Hero pack yeah, same as myself.

    Main reason I'm getting the Ultimate edition though is because it's the only one that also gives you FIFA 22 on the PS5, other editions you have to buy the game again.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I feel it's basically still 30 games, but you need to win 5 of the first 9 to keep playing beyond the 9, I guess. Which is an issue for me, cause I routinely went 3-6 on Fridays 😂


    The 4600 points is great. Much better than the 2 packs a week stuff that was worthless after two weeks. Going to load another €50 or so on top of that and see how I get on. Plus welcome back packs, initial SBC packs, should be able to generate a decent starter team. I'll see what the best cards I get out of the packs before deciding which way to build.


    I missed out the Hero card too. :( Wanted Ole or Robbie Keane.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,151 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    My plan is 100% to just get Robbie and stick with him for as long as possible, based on things like similar-statted Icon prices from last year I'm expecting him to cost maybe 250-400k in the first week or two.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Gyan84


    You don't get the fut hero card added to your account until the first of December anyway. By that time I'd say all of them except the serie a center back will be cheap enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭BrentMused


    Pulled the trigger on the Ultimate Edition and a month of EA Play for early access tonight anyway, thanks guys.

    In terms of planning ahead, last year I bought 12,000 FIFA Points and it gave me a massive head start.

    Werner was my big pull who was going for around 250,000 at the time, plus I got a few extinct players like Rodrigo, Traore and Felix who rocketed up in price too. If you were to take an absolute worst case scenario of no pulls of note from the 12,000 points, you still should end up with at least 200,000 coins from it and that's absolute worst case.

    With what I got from the above and a bit of trading early on, I ended up with an excellent PL team, a stocked club for SBC's and a decent coin balance, before most people had even got the game on general release! I then had Mane, Werner, Gomez, Robertson, Anderson, Allan, Ake, Moura, Ederson within a week or so of Early Access.

    Anyone doing similar tonight? I appreciate it's not for everyone and if I had the time to grind a Road To Glory I'd be all over that as I have been in the past, but with even less time this year than I did last year I think I'll adopt a similar strategy.

    Early Access is definitely the best time to do it anyway as there's less players so pack weight appears to be better due to less people opening them.

    For trading, I made over 200k in 2 days mainly buying Antonio on average at around 3k (some for far lower in the early hours) and selling buy it now anywhere up to 4.9k. Keita was another one I was having great success with. Buying him anywhere from 1.3k-1.8k and quick selling around 2.5k for lazy buyers. Some were even selling at 3.5k!

    With the 10 hours, I'll spend an hour or two opening packs, browsing menus and doing some SBC's (I know I could do it on the app but I enjoy it more on console), then the rest on Squad Battles (boring but worth doing for the first couple of weeks for the rewards) and Rivals.

    FFS, I've gone from not getting the game at all a few hours ago to this! :pac:



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    100% the same Brent.


    I think last year, I did 12000 points too. I’ll get similar, minus the 4600 points they’re giving us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,221 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting


    Is the trial out guys?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Gyan84


    Salah and Kimmich the highlights of the first team of the week.

    Toney is the boosted player so he goes to 84.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/FIFA/comments/pt9h1x/totw_1_revealed/



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Totw1


    Toney is 84 rated thanks to the new system in place too, that boosts silver cards up drastically when they get an IF



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,221 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭piplip87


    I'm back this year again myself. Xbox 1 **** it's self, can't be arsed buying a new Console for basicly just FIFA. Giving Stadia a try as it's getting the next gen version. P

    Not into trading or doing puzzles. Dont have the time for it. Like many I'll buy the regular game and sink 100 quid into packs. Use half on day one and the other during the first two events.

    Casual player here so it's important to have a team after two or three weeks that can keep me going until TOTY, when I might buy a few more packs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Have the trial downloading there now. Always liked when we had web app access a few days before the game came to console as it meant you could get a decent trade pile going. With everyone getting 4600 points it will def be tougher this year. If you pre-ordered the Ultimate edition, will you have access to the 4600 FIA Points today do we reckon or will it not be until the actual release date?


    As regards forum being quieter I reckon it's just the new boards platform. It's absolutely useless and I am on way less.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    no signs of the 4600 points yet, frustratingly.


    Returning bonus packs…Erickson (who is an 82 now), Cavani! IF Bounou, Barella. Cavani is great news. Will build around him now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭Calvin


    Think we get them on the 27th with all the other bonuses (ultimate edition early access) or on full release. Have to wait about 20hrs now for my trial to download… bloody internet infrastructure in Ireland killing me slowly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭BrentMused



    I believe the 4,600 points won't be given to us until 27th, when the Ultimate Edition goes live.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    grand so, that can be my OTW pile.


    Screw it, I’m treating myself to 12000 points to get going. Quick selling all league, crests, balls. Anything over 81 that isn’t PL goes on the Tp. Duplicates too. Let’s go.


    Not counting individual packs. Just noting highlights.


    DiMaria out early.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,475 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    im not bothering this time around, thoroughly enjoyed 21 (after not playing a football game for years) eventually even made it to Div3, but its far too much of a time suck and the web app is like crack, im better off out of it.


    Enjoy folks!



  • Administrators Posts: 54,424 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    What do people do when they buy points? Buy packs? Gold packs?



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    for me, yeah. Drafts are probably better value if you can win two games, but I don’t trust myself to do that.


    PL highlights. Bailey (from Villa). Cavani again, lol. Bailly from United. Mata, low rated but United team going well. Jesus. Vardy. Allan. POGBA!


    non PL. Angelino.Karmaric. Sule. Getting a good German league here. Ooh, Bale. A shadow card, sweet. Another. Trippier. Parejo. Reus. Paulista. Blind. Felix. Correa. Acerbi. Sabitzer. Zapata. Insigne. IF Horn.


    so, team, without spending coinage. Two spots to fill.


    cavani - Vardy

    —Pogba— Allan - Bale

    Alonso - Bailey - - Trippier

    henderson


    coming out of this a lot happier than I did last year actually. I’d say I’ll have 200k or more, AND a great starter team. I’d hope Cavani and Vardy do me for a while. Pogba will do me for aaaaages. Back line needs work. But can focus attention there. And can have a healthy starting balance too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭Adamcp898




  • Administrators Posts: 54,424 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    How do you get the 200k? Selling up spare players and consumables? Sell now or after release?

    Been a long time since I tried FUT, sorry for basic questions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,151 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Web app supposed to open at 6pm but nothing yet



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    for me, as I’m opening packs, I quick sell any consumables I don’t think I’ll need immediately. So, manager cards, league cards, half the contracts, any stadium decorations unless special.


    Any high rated cards, above 81, I’m not using goes to the trade pile, but not listed yet. I’ll list them this evening from the app. They might be worth more tomorrow. They’ll be worth less with full release since everyone will be buying packs then. But I will sell them ASAP tonight so I can start trading quicker. DiMaria was about 35k when I looked, a few of the others were at 10k.


    run through SBCs with lower rated cards. Transfer list any I don’t use then.


    the majority, I want rid of ASAP. There’s a few I’ll try trading with though, by listing about 50% above lowest asking price. I’ll happily sit on them for a bit and resist them every sixty minutes, fishing for lazy buyers.

    also, I sold a few Shadow and Hunter cards I got too, since they are extinct. Quickly sell for 5k each.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Lol, it’s looking like the old gen and next gen versions are on different timers. So you might be able to do ten hours on your PS4 and then an additional ten on your PS5…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭Bunny Colvin


    Managed to get Gabriel Jesus and Rodri from the packs, nothing else of note.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Two games played. 6-2 and 7-3 wins.


    was funny seeing people try to run from the kick off and just not being able to adjust that it’s not an exploit that’s working. Same with skills. They can’t help themselves, even as they get clobbered. They can’t change their “tactics”. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭All_in_Flynn


    Is your FIFA account linked to your PSN name? I changed PSN name recently and I've just got access to the trial but I've no XP or welcome back packs. I thought it was linked to your email address. Anyway to rectify this does anyone know?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Haaland in the first welcome back pack I opened! He's selling for about 100k atm which I thought would be higher. Going to hold for a few more days until more coins come onto the market.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭Calvin


    Nothing of note from the welcome back packs… Maddison/Barnes the best of the bunch. Got majority PL players, so I guess I’ll go that route for a squad. Not sure if I want to do rivals or SB first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,439 ✭✭✭Josey Wales


    When I login to the FIFA webapp it tells me it is not available to Trail Access users, that I must purchase a full copy.

    Anyone else getting that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    Sooooooooooo.....I did something I'm not proud of. Bought €27 worth of packs. Got nothing of note except for van Dijk. There's a wide spread of prices right now on PS5 of 200-600k for him, anyone who played last year able to hazard an educated guess at where his price might land in the next week or so?

    Tempted to keep of course but I'd be weeks trying to build a decent PL team around him without the coin injection as I didn't pull anything decent apart from him.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Good shout. They are different games so that should work.

    Preview packs are still there. Carrasco is in the pack I checked. The pack is 7.5 so I'd imagine theres a decent bit of profit to make if I can twig the coins in the next 24 hours.

    I bought the Hong Kong UE for e80 so I can play Sunday from like 5pm so I'll get a few drinks and take Monday off.

    I'd have liked the UT on disc but it apparently doesnt exist so HK and save some money with earlier access seems the job.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Whaaat? Played 5 games and nobody has scored more than 2 goals in any. Its utterly dire stuff. 1-0, 0-1, 1-0 etc.



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