Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

No it's not it's a Biden Harris problem! Another mis-step by this administration! I wonder what the next crisis will be?

Stop changing the subject! Do you agree that Biden/Harris have made another cock up with the border crisis? Don't expect an honest answer from the likes of you.

Btw looks like Biden was never a big fan of Haiti as this clip from an 1994 interview shows (as a side he was a good speaker back in the day compared to what he is now)

It's actually refreshing to see so many Democrats have conflicting views with Biden on various topics. It at least shows they're exercising their own judgement on items rather than just meekly toing the line just so as to appeal to a populist ideal as we saw with the last administration. This is what real world politics is really like, or should be like.

Personally I agree with Bidens position and actions on Afghanistan, I agree with some elements of his border policy not with others, (and I do think Tulsi is trying to get on the Joe Manchin/Kirsten Sinema style of Democrat positioning). I agree with AOC, Bernie, when it comes to investment targets and removing the filibuster. Biden is trying to act with the benefit of experience in being VP for 8 years and just how difficult it is to get meaningful legislation approved, an acute awareness of what is best for society in terms of infrastructure investment, climate policies healthcare, education etc and the reality that mid-terms and the next Presidential campaign are approaching.

The idea that he has to please everyone in every way or else he is failing is just a mythical view of how politics actually works in the real world. Outside of maybe Mitt Romney and McCain, very few Republicans pushed back on any Trump policy and most of them focused on vague, populist ideals that are like smoke in the wind when it comes to them being implemented.

Snake Pilsken, you're not a big fan of answering questions, I know that, but maybe you will answer this one. If the Presidential election was on tomorrow, and you had a vote, knowing everything we know about Donald and Joe from before their time as President, their time as President, and in Donald's case, his time since being President, which one would you vote for. And more importantly, why would you vote that way.

Try the whole interview.

Here have a transcript even

Whats the issue with what he said?

I'll bet my left nut you heard Pete Hegseth say this on the news last night, carefully selected snippet and declared Biden was being 'wacist'

tldr - Biden rightly points out Haiti was not relevant to America's cold war calculus with russia and china. Hence, Reagan etc. chose to focus on Grenada and other interests.

Only in the eyes of those looking to find fault.

And as we have seen, many such as Josh Hawley, wrote to him asking him to do something, and are now blaming him for having done something they asked him to do sooner.

That might have been believable in the middle of the last century.

But in a world as connected as todays is, with the ability to influence goings on through diplomacy/sanctions, policy and funds should not be directed by the world as it was more than 50 years ago.

The US has been involved in major extended conflicts in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq (twice) in that time frame. How many of these conflicts resulted in the world, and specifically the region where they were held, being safer as a consequence of the military actions?

We don't know that for sure. In fact, it could be argued that China and Russia have recognized that they can advance their own agendas in gaining power and influence through largely non-military means.

But know that as long as the US pour such money in to funding such an outfit, there will continue to be a major conflict every ten years or so. The easy part is finding an excuse for that conflict. And some people might be ok with this, many Republicans clearly are, but they shouldn't then start lambasting someone because there was more death as they finally ended things in the latest playground of operations.

Unfortunately, the increasing climate concerns and its impact on resources and access to them will likely be a trigger point for conflict in future. If people were truly interested in a safe world, they would argue investment to mitigate such issues in that respect. But, unfortunately, we see people refuse to adequately investment in that area, and decry the loss of life in conflict when it is appropriate for them to do so, but they still want to fund the military to active engagement levels, and refuse to fund climate initiatives, calling it scaremongering/socialism etc.

Hopefully mods won't remove this, it indicates how the Democratic party, Big social media and parts of the intelligence community are closely intertwined and how establishment media frames a narrative. As an aside there is a decent example recently of how Twitter are ok with hacked content as they are allowing hacked material from an internet host to be distributed on their platform

Imeach ? Is there no spell checkers in these peoples staff ?

And in news that will shock very few, the progressive and moderate wings of the dems are competing to derail Bidens infrastructure bills because they seem intent of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

My bad .

I think she misspelt 'amach'.