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In vino veritas - what wine are you drinking?

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,819 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Aldi's Valpolicella Ripasso is down to €4.99(normally €9.99) until Father's Day. Anyone know if it's any good?


  • Registered Users Posts: 573 ✭✭✭Buddy97mm


    irish_goat wrote:
    Aldi's Valpolicella Ripasso is down to €4.99(normally €9.99) until Father's Day. Anyone know if it's any good?

    I tried it a few months ago, it was decent and certainly very drinkable, if not one of the better Ripassos I have had. That said, for 4.99, I will be heading to Aldi to stock up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 573 ✭✭✭Buddy97mm


    Buddy97mm wrote:
    I tried it a few months ago, it was decent and certainly very drinkable, if not one of the better Ripassos I have had. That said, for 4.99, I will be heading to Aldi to stock up.


    Too late for me, all sold in my local Aldi. Staff said they might have some more tomorrow but can't be certain, they don't seem to be directly involved in what supplies actually arrive in the morning, rather just deal with in when it arrives.

    Not sure if it's socially acceptable to queue outside Aldi for wine at 9.00am, especially considering one would then have to wait until 10.30 to actually buy, but I may push those boundaries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    OBriens loyalty club deal until 4th July

    20% Off Wine From Chile, Argentina, Uruguay & USA

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Will bump this thread onto the new site with a bank holiday wine mixed case deal from Wines of the World.

    6 bottles below delivered for €78 (rrp €90).

    Kylie Cava - Spain

    Champteloup Rosé d’Anjou - France

    Marieta Albariño - Spain

    Fat Bastard Rosé - France

    Casa Silva Reserva Pinot Noir - Chile

    Picpoul de Pinet, Petit Ronde - France


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,202 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Couple of beauties from Lidl this week.

    €8.99. Blend of 6 grapes. Not a big white wine fan but this is great.



    €7.99. Lovely smooth drink.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Sticking with LIDL, I think I picked this up a week before the Iberian picks noted above.

    Might have disappeared from the shelves by now but if you spot a bottle and are a fan of Pinot Noir pick one up.

    Chloe - California Pinot Noir from Monterey County.

    I thought this was a very nice old world style Pinot Noir, great value at €12.

    It has the classic dark red fruits and 'earthiness' flavour.



    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭abff


    Vidigueira



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭TheSheriff




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The current O'Briens wine member exclusive (just show your green loyalty card) is 20% off all Australian wines.

    *Excludes wines on promotion. Offer ends Sunday 22nd of August.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    LIDL have a nice Corbieres in their limited run wine bins at the moment for €8.

    It's an AOP Corbieres from 2018, blend of Grenache and Syrah. Very typical of the region and comparable with what you'd get for €12 - €13 in an off licence.



    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I've signed up for this with O'Briens, looks interesting.

    Exploring California, An Online Wine Tasting on Thursday, 16th September 2021 at 7pm

    Price is €90 and includes these four bottles:

    * Kendall-Jackson Chardonnay 2019 usual RRP €23.95

    * Le Crema Sonoma Coast Pinot Noir 2018 usual RRP €34.95

    * Kendall-Jackson Zinfandel 2018 usual RRP €23.95

    * Kendall-Jackson Cabernet Sauvignon 2018 usual RRP €29.95

    https://www.obrienswine.ie/products/californian-tasting-case

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Northpole


    German Riesling and German Gewürztraminer



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Northpole


    Müller-Thurgau!



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Northpole


    I read here about wine from many countries.

    And what about wine from Germany?


    There is wine in this world outside France as well.



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Northpole


    Don't they sell German wine in Irish supermarkets as well?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    It's not that common apart from (bargain basement) Liebfraumilch, Black Tower range (some of which are spritzers really) & Mosel riesling.

    Dunnes have a Pfalz Pinot Noir - Kendermann for 11.50 which is on my list to try.

    O'Briens have a few Rieslings and one red (Dornfelder), which is a very small presence.

    From what I understand, German wine seemed to destroy its export markets during the 1980s with an indecipherable appellation\labelling system and focus on quantity rather than what people wanted to drink. I'd say they had difficult times in with some of the poor summers in the late 1970s \ early 1980s.

    They were blitzed out of it versus the more consumer friendly imports from Chile, Australia, New Zealand in the UK and Ireland.

    Post edited by odyssey06 on

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Well if you go back to the 1970s the world of wine was a lot smaller.

    It was France and the rest, the only ones that would have been talked about were Chianti from Italy, Rioja from Spain and Riesling from Germany.

    For a long time they would have been the only wines considered worth aging.

    If you only drank the wines of France you would probably get an appreciation for the majority of wine styles, given the diversity of its wines from cooler climates of Alsace & Loire, classic zones of Champagne, Bordeaux, Burgundy, Rhone down to the Languedoc and Provence & that it is French grapes that are predominantly used in Chile, America, Australia, New Zealand.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Northpole


    The new wine season of 2021 has started!

    Enjoy the "New Swwet Wine!" :)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Northpole


    Enjoy the "New Sweet Wine!" = Federweißer!


    That's what I mean. :)



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Northpole


    What really destroyed the German export markets were WW One and WW Two.

    People did not want to drink "enemy wine".

    And many have not realized that the war is over now. :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Northpole


    "The German wine industry cynically sold us utter rubbish for years."

    Nonsense.

    The British were buying utter rubbish for years, because they preferred to drink utter rubbish.

    Nobody is forced to buy utter rubbish.



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Northpole


    Btw: When is a newcomer like me finally allowed to post simple links?



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Northpole


    When is a newcomer like me finally allowed to post simple links?

    Where can I ask this question?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Well, from reading books by veteran wine writers like Oz Clarke and Tom Doorley, in the 1970s the choice was paying top pounds for your premium Bordeaux, Rieslings etc versus the affordable supermarket wines which seemed to come from grapes in France, Germany, Spain, Italy which tasted like they never set eyes on sunshine or yields had been stretched too far and which were by all accounts utter rubbish.

    When affordable wines started coming in from the New World in the 1980s, those utterly rubbish Old World were the ones displaced.

    At a time when wine sales & imports were increasing in the US, UK etc German wines disappeared off the shelves.

    I think you should be asking yourself why that happened, and I don't think the war explains it given that in the 1980s German brands in cars etc sold well.

    Have you considered the possibility a lot of German wine in the past was rubbish? At least what they tried to export to those markets?

    Other countries stole a march on them with mass produced wines made with modern techniques, but at least it was drinkable plonk. Those other countries had perhaps more natural advantages in terms of more sunshine especially back in the 1980s, although New Zealand would have similar climate.

    Maybe Germany's problem was it tried to get too earlier into the branded wines with Blue Nun etc before they really had enough drinkable plonk to put into the bottles, so they compensated with sweetness - mass marketing but without the modern wine making techniques to support it.

    Mateus Rose from Portugal suffered a similar fate, huge in the 1970s, seen as passe in the 1980s and now coming back as part of the Rose boom but with a drier style.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    You need 50 posts to post links to stop newcomers flooding threads with ads links.

    There is a Helpdesk forum but I think it's flooded with queries about the new version of boards.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Northpole


    I have no intention whatsoever to post ad lnks.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Northpole


    Wine with names like "Blue Nun" are a disgrace to the wine world.

    Wine is no brand like "Coca-Cola."


    A real wine may be called a name like "Steinbacher Yburgberg Riesling Kabinett, Baden 1964" - but not idiotic names like "Blue Nun".



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Northpole




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I managed to pick up a bottle in Dunnes of the Terra Quartär Pinot Noir 2019, Pfalz, Reh Kendermann, Germany (13%, €11.50)

    Recommened in both the Irish Times and Irish Examiner in the last week.

    Tasting notes from the Examiner: Red fruit aromas plus some earthy, forest-floor notes - darker fruits on the palate, textured and juicy with good concentration and balancing acidity.

    I had a glass last night and it was nice without really impressing me, but it opened up in the decanter and tonight it's something special.




    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭limnam




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Yes, sorry wasn't clear, when I opened the bottle Saturday I poured a glass and rest into the decanter (cos it looks nice and was going to bottle bank Sunday morning).

    Sunday's glass came from the decanter and had really opened up.

    Wasn't expecting Pinot Noir to respond like that or I would have had it breathing in the decanter for a few hours Saturday - I usually do that with Bordeaux, Chianti.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Kicking off what will be a week of O'Briens California wines is Murphy Goode Cabernet Sauvignon.

    I'll crib some tasting notes from Vivino: Blackberry and dark fruit flavor forward with a nice smooth oak finish. Medium acidity and black currant. Plum and BlackBerry scent.

    At €22.95 I would say a little over-priced, Califorian wines come at a premium but a very nice and thoroughly enjoyable Cabernet Sauvignon.


    Post edited by odyssey06 on

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The O'Briens California virtual wine tasting was good fun, perhaps a little rushed.

    The Kendall Jackson Chardonnay (not too oaked), Cabernet Sauvignon and La Crema Sonoma Pinot Noir were all lovely though the RRP has the California premium attached. The surprise of the night for me was the Kendall Jackson Zinfandel, which was complex and well balanced.

    https://www.obrienswine.ie/products/kendall-jackson-zinfandel

    And now to followup with a reliable midweek wine - Messer del Fauno Primitivo, available in independent offies for €10 - €12. This is from Italy, and Primitivo there is the same grape as American Zinfandel. I'd usually associated Zinfandel with over-powered blockbuster reds, but both these expressions were well balanced, more depth to the Zinfandel and more fruit in the Primitivo.

    https://whelehanswines.ie/products/masseria-del-fauno-primitivo-w00171-1

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    A rather special bottle tonight, received as a gift in memory of a holiday in the area, which feels like a lifetime ago now...

    Norman Hardie, Pinot Noir 2016 Unfiltered, from the cool climate Niagara Peninsula in Canada.

    The perfect present, a bottle I'd love to try and did enjoy, but couldn't justify paying the premium price for.

    At only 11.2% alcohol, this is the lightest Pinot Noir I've tasted, but does not come across as thin \ weak.

    I'll crib some tasting notes from Green Wines UK: Exudes bright red fruit, complex earthy aromas and a real lightness on the palate where there are plenty of generous red fruit flavours, a crunchy acidity and expressive tannins leading up to a long, lingering finish.

    This would be ideal for a Sunday lunch or an impressive bottle to bring along for Christmas lunch.



    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭limnam


    Can this be bought in Ireland?


    Couldn't see it anywhere



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    My source says they got it in Jus de Vine Portmarnock couple weeks ago though its doesnt show up on their site. Might be worth giving them a buzz. It was imported by 'Conviviality' group.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Very interesting article on JancisRobinson.com on how the reduced use of suplhites in so-called natural wines can ultimately lead to higher quantities of natural histamine. Sulphites can cause a reaction in some asthma sufferers, and histamine can be a factor in wine intolerance. More details on the research by Master of Wine Sophie Parker-Thomson in the article:

    https://www.jancisrobinson.com/articles/light-shone-wine-intolerance

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The off licence wine awards winners announced, these are usually a good indicator of a nice bottle, not one of those gold stars for everyone awards show. There are different categories for wines under €10, €20, old world v new world, red v white.

    Wine of the year was the Trulli Salice Salentino DOP which was also the Old World Red Under €15 winner.

    https://www.shelflife.ie/2021-irish-wine-show-star-award-winners-announced/

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,210 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    I don't generally record the wine I drink here, but maybe now and again I will throw something up.

    Last weekend I opened a Willunga 100. 18 euros, an Australian shiraz from the McLaren Vale, south of Adelaide.

    For 18 euros you get a fruity, muscular shiraz with quite a dry tobacco savoury finish.

    I'd buy it again. This is quite widely available. I have a few less common Australian shiraz in the cupboard that might make for interesting comparisons going forward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Inspired by his trips around the region in Michel Roux's French Country Cooking (Food Network), I picked up a bottle of Ardeche wine, as I realised I hadn't tried any.

    The Louis Latour Ardeche Chardonnay paired perfectly with prawns pil-pil. Louis Latour is one of the major Burgundy wine negoiciants and this is done in a style which makes the Ardeche an extension of that region, jumping over Lyon.

    €15 from Clontarf Baths off licence.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    'Rugra Nebbiolo ‘Scajeta’ 2013' best bottle I've had in a long time but it was around £17 so not something that's going to happen regularly.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,210 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Another fairly readily available Aussie Shiraz… Alkoomi 2018 Frankland River white label.

    Pedestrian, quite dry and no fruit delivery coming through.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,210 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Katnook founders block Shiraz 2016.

    “Pure Coonawara character”, massive juiciness but still dry on the finish. A big mouthfeel and savoury nose.

    For 18 euro a tremendous wine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Northpole


    Right now I am having a fine Traminer :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    ALDI Ireland have launched a free online wine course, probably more for people starting off on their wine journey but thought I'd give it a bump.

    Designed with wine expert Nadia El Ferdaoussi, this six-module course will teach all there is to know about this favourite drink, from the basics on how to taste wine, right through to the finer points like grape varieties, tasting notes and production methods. Covering still, sparkling, sweet and fortified wines, with this six module Aldiploma, you’ll learn everything you need to know how to choose your preferred bottle of wine to suit your budget, while learning which food pairings work best with your chosen grape.

    https://www.aldi.ie/aldiploma

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,210 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Heartland Illicium cabernet sauvignon shiraz ... 14.99

    I'm still really enjoying these bold Australian wines. This doesn't stack up to something like the Katnook Founder's Block mentioned above, but it's a good wine for 15 euro. Huge dark fruit hit.



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